Go Back   FileForums > Game Backup > SEGA > DC Games
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 21-11-2000, 12:37
krash krash is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
krash
FINALY a fix to all and a work around the greyed out open new session!!!

What you will need:
1. Cdirip, ISO LBA Fixer, ISO Header Extracter (all available at cdirip.freeyellow.com)
2. Any CD-Burning software that supports multisession and the ISO format (in this guide I use CdrWin-- this will work with multisession burners, even if the open new session box is normally grayed out)

Also note, because this method adds to the size of the cd, games that used to require 74 min discs may need an 80 min disc to burn on with this method.

What this method is for:
Any DC game with two tracks that gives you a buffer under-run (300 sector audio track in the first session and a data track in the second session)

This will even work on games with that pesky Sega of Europe protection (Metropolis Street Racer)

What this method is not for:
Any game with multiple audio tracks in the first session
Any game that is greater than roughly 77 minutes (this technique eats up 26 megs on the disc). Also, just because a game needs an 80 min disc does not mean it is more than 77 minutes in size.

Procedure:
1. Extract the CDI file from the rars
2. Use Cdirip on the CDI file to produce a TData02.iso file
3. Use the ISO LBA fixer on the TData02.iso (this will usually create a file called tmp.iso unless otherwise specified. when it asks for lba, use the one cdirip told you, usually 11700)
4. Use the ISO Header Extracter on the TData02.iso (this will usually create a file called header.iso unless otherwise specified.)
5. At this point the original TData02.iso is not needed, you may delete it if you wish.
6. Burn the iso that was produced by the ISO LBA fixer as a Mode 2 XA track in the first session. (CdrWin example: use "File and Backup Tools". Select "Record an ISO file". Choose the tmp.iso or whatever you named it. Select Cdrom-XA and Mode 2, check the box for Open New Session and Finalize/Close Session, and uncheck the Write Postgap Box)
7. Now burn the header.iso as the track in the second session (CdrWin: exact same procedure as the last track, except select header.iso)
8. Believe it or not, that's it. Go play your game.

Why/How Does this Work?
A typical DC game is a 2 session disc: the first contains one 300 sector audio track, and the second contains one Mode 2 XA data track. The boot sector is located in the beginning of the data track. If the first track is 300 sectors, all file and directory records will be set for a second session to begin at an LBA of 11700 on the disc.

Many burners, however, cannot burn the 300 sector track, thus screwing up the disc. In the past it was possible to use various methods to burn a second session successfully at 11702, but Metropolis Street Racer cannot be burned like this without some serious modifications. When you run the ISO LBA Fixer, it pads 11700 sectors in front of the iso. By doing this, the files will now begin at the proper location. However, the disc needs more to boot. The ISO Header Extracter copies the boot sector, pvd and svd into a new, otherwise blank iso file. The pvd and svd are still pointing to addresses based off a 11700 LBA.

Now, when the DC boots, it looks at the second session and finds the boot sector. When it reaches the pvd and svd, however, they are conveniently ointing towards the directory records that are in the first session, and all the files are sitting at the right sectors on the disc because they have pushed 11700 sectors ahead.

As it turns out, this is a tremendously useful method of burning that both solves most buffer under-run problems and works with the LBA protection found in the Sega of Europe games. The only catch is that you need 26 megs free on the disc.

also i found that it works best at 4x speed or slower First one i did was at 8x and it was a coaster. second one was fine at 4x speed ... see you guys later as i need to burn alot of shit takes a while to do this way but sure beats buying a new burner
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 21-11-2000, 12:59
igottashit666 igottashit666 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NY
Posts: 391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
igottashit666
Glad to see someone else post the successful method that worked for them, and did not mind posting a long post like some other people.
__________________
Life is just a dream that you can not wake up from.
All I need, is my Dugout full of weed.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 21-11-2000, 13:17
Wideboy Wideboy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 31
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Wideboy
Problem is he missed the http://www.dc-copies.co.uk link off the bottom.

If people are going to 'paste' other peoples info they should at least give the original author some credit!!!

Like I do when helping people out (cheers again for your advice igottashit666 - why did u pick that name anyway???)
__________________
Walking the mile -- walking the green mile (what a film!!!)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 21-11-2000, 13:56
igottashit666 igottashit666 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NY
Posts: 391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
igottashit666
Quote:
Wideboy (21-11-2000 21:17):
Problem is he missed the http://www.dc-copies.co.uk link off the bottom.

If people are going to 'paste' other peoples info they should at least give the original author some credit!!!

Like I do when helping people out (cheers again for your advice igottashit666 - why did u pick that name anyway???)

i was going to use 247 instead of 666. i like using weird names. it is more fun. i just could not think of a normal name at the time. usually i pick whatever is in my head at the time.

you should have seen the name i almost used

blowmelikeyouknowme

LOL
__________________
Life is just a dream that you can not wake up from.
All I need, is my Dugout full of weed.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 21-11-2000, 13:58
krash krash is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
krash
sure i amm not afraid to say i posted the info file to the files i d/l'ed no one ever said that "I" was the one who came up with this just said there was a solution. all anyone would have to do is look at my other posts to see that I couldnt figure it out but this seems to be a fool proof way of burning cdi files .. there was no link in the info except the one that is in the first couple of sentences and it is still there. I am not a thief I am just trying to help others and not flame them so dont be mad cause you are not the one that posted this just be glad that someone did! I am sure this will help ALOT of people seeing that I have burned about 5 games with no probs today.. good luck to all in their burning efforts... and just IQC me if you need the files that are mentioned in this post. and i will see what i can do ............................

J U S T T R Y I N G T O H E L P ! ! ! !
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 21-11-2000, 15:19
freddyfang
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thanks KRASH what more can one say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 21-11-2000, 17:20
Wideboy Wideboy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 31
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Wideboy
ooooh touchy.... only joking!!!

keeps this post alive anyway..... lol
__________________
Walking the mile -- walking the green mile (what a film!!!)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 22-11-2000, 11:40
krash krash is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
krash
come on peeps reply to this to keep the thread alive
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 22-11-2000, 22:47
BIG PAPA BIG PAPA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 205
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
BIG PAPA
i am all for this...thanks krash for the info.....can i start sending the 100+ emails i get a day to you now?

Good work bro, but even better work, for the authors of the og post.

TGG7
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 26-11-2000, 08:05
mjack mjack is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
mjack
Is this a solution for burners that don't support multi-session burning?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:38.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
FileForums @ https://fileforums.com