HELP ME PLEASE! - Final Fantasy 9

GunBlade · #1 24-11-2001, 04:50

Ok, now, I tried like a ZILLION times to burn that game, with no success!
I have a PAL PS2, and an NTSC version of Final Fantasy 9! I need to patch the damn game!
I tried a million types of patches, and it doesn't work!
Can someone here P L E A S E tell me what EXACT patch to apply, how to apply it and essentially all the steps to create a WORKING backup of Final Fantasy 9?

Bobster · #2 24-11-2001, 06:10

If your burner is compatible with clonecd use it and then u wont have to worry about a patch

GunBlade · #3 24-11-2001, 08:37

I have a NEO2.2. That means I can't launch NTSC games. I have to use CDRWIN to download the file to the Hard drive, patch it and then burn it.
Someone! PLEASE HELP ME BURN THE DAMN DISC! I NEED SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS!

#4 24-11-2001, 10:28

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GunBlade (24-11-2001 16:37):
I have a NEO2.2. That means I can't launch NTSC games. I have to use CDRWIN to download the file to the Hard drive, patch it and then burn it.
Someone! PLEASE HELP ME BURN THE DAMN DISC! I NEED SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS!

Of course you can launch NTSC backups with NEO2.2. NTSC then comes out the back of the PS2 and if you use a fully loaded SCART lead to your PAL TV then the colours wil display correctly.

Use CloneCD. try it - at worst you'll get black and white until you get the scart lead.

GunBlade · #5 24-11-2001, 12:02

What are you talking about?
I have a PAL PS2! It can't run imports whatsoever!

Common people, someone with a heart PLEASE
P L E A S E help me out here! I need specific instructions to backup NTSC Final Fantasy 9 into a PAL backup!

Krackkils · #6 24-11-2001, 13:19

Have you tried Final Fantasy 9 +3 Trainer & PAL/NTSC Selector? If not try it. If you have already tried it then I don't know. Is it just my crappy pc or is this forum slow as hell!

#7 24-11-2001, 13:24

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GunBlade (24-11-2001 20:02):
What are you talking about?
I have a PAL PS2! It can't run imports whatsoever!

Common people, someone with a heart PLEASE
P L E A S E help me out here! I need specific instructions to backup NTSC Final Fantasy 9 into a PAL backup!

You really are a difficult customer to please. Why don't you believe me? How do you know it won't run imports whatsoever? Read this and learn.

Your PAL PS2 wil run anything once you get past the boot phase which does the region and type (DVD, PSX, PS2) check on the part of the pressed original that CloneCD can't reach. Your NEO2.2 interacts with AR2/DVDRX/Memory Manager 16 to allow you to put any CloneCD produced or suitably patched backup game into the tray and it will load.

In the NTSC game case, it will play as an NTSC game and put an NTSC signal out the back. This will hit your PAL TV and either roll around or play black & white. This problem can be avoided if a full AV signal is presented with proper synchronisation. The PAL PS2 provides the synchronisation signal if you put a fully loaded scart lead (a purchasable PS2 accessory) as your connexion between TV and PS2. Alternatively you can buy an NTSC-PAL Convertor (which is what I did because my PS2 is too far from the 28" TV for the scart lead to reach).

Now, CloneCD the first disk and try it. If it doesn't work, it won't be because your chipped PS2 can't play NTSC games.

GunBlade · #8 24-11-2001, 17:23

In that case, Why can't I just load the Original???

#9 25-11-2001, 04:26

... Because the boot rom in the PS2 checks the original, which is pressed not burned. So far as I know, the PS2 does two things (this stuff is not widely published so it is what I have gleaned):

1/
It looks at the CD surface with the laser "off phase" to determine its status as a genuine CD or DVD or PSX game

2/
It reads info pressed onto the CD/DVD as to region/locale which has to match what is in the ROM

So you have to boot with a CD/DVD made by a Sony approved pressing process. A pressed CD/DVD creates ridges and troughs that bounce light back from the laser to represent a "1"; a ridge doesn't bounce light back so it's a "zero". A burned CD/DVD uses a laser to melt troughs and ridges into a compound. Thereafter the laser reads it in the same way. A burner doesn't burn to 100% of the surface; a presser can so press and a proprietary reader can read anywhere on the surface.

So, coupling the above with the explanation in my last post, now do you accept what I've said? Fool the PS2 first into thinking it has booted a legit game, stop the process before it has details of the game and insert a game backup that can move forward to play.

When you have made a copy of the first FF9 disk, try this - it works with most modchips in the case of PSX imports, it certainly did with my original modchip.com chip (except that the eject was automatic):

a) Insert any PAL PSX original (you can buy one of these dead cheap I'm sure!)
b) Properly power off the PS2 for a few seconds
c) Turn the PS2 on (rear switch)
d) Press eject just before the PSX LOGO SCREEN display (you'll get this second time round!)
e) Swap out the PAL PSX original with your PSX (FF9) import backup
f) Press eject to close the tray and the game should load

Your NEO2.2 instructions may have further advice (or indeed the identical advice).

GunBlade · #10 25-11-2001, 07:00

Now I understand!
Thanks!
I haven't heard that explanation yet, that's why I was so confused.

GunBlade · #11 25-11-2001, 11:47

Still doesn't work.
What am I doing wrong?
How can I know when is the right time to swap?

subzero · #12 16-02-2002, 12:50

gunblade your problem is this :

the mod chip doesn't solve the region problem in the psx
u have to patch it to pal region that's all
use patch-it 2.01 which can be found
in www.megagames.com
i had the same problem when i tried psx games
consult me if u need any help .