Rise And Fall: CaW - Starforce 3.7

[neptun]

If you make the image with alcohol and burn it without rmps to one of the discs mentioned it will work just like your original.No need to unplug drives or use antiblacklisting tools.Just put the disc in your drive and play.

[Maffi]

Hello ,

tried it out and i must say it doesnt work here so far
Buyed a whole bunch of different DVD´s untill i found the
RICOHJPNW11 ! but it still doenst work even with the correct Alcohol version.

so please keep me updated what to do


Greetz

[Morglum007]

u should try with the daxon and philips media code. Also the infodisc media code may work. Seems some recorders doesnt enjoy certains brands. Remember that even using same media code, a brand disc may work, and another brand with same media code wont. There is also some people with nec using mbip media code instead philips, daxon or infodisc. U should look for what type of disc ur drive better accepts. This is an error/success process. List is just orientative. If u have a nforce based chipset it wont work while u execute under such controller. Another thing: game?

CdS

[Maffi]

will try the Phillips now got almost every Brand and type available here for testing
last test will be the Octron "RITEKR02"
im using a Nforce chipset with SataRaid ? u think its possible that this combo
cause some problems too ? ideas to fix it ?

Greetz

[Morglum007]

Originally Posted by Maffi

will try the Phillips now got almost every Brand and type available here for testing
last test will be the Octron "RITEKR02"
im using a Nforce chipset with SataRaid ? u think its possible that this combo
cause some problems too ? ideas to fix it ?

Greetz

Thats why it wont work for u. Nforce chipset seems to detect something another controllers doesnt. If u want to execute such DVD u must execute it under NON-NFORCE connected chipset, like an usb or so. Ur cloned DVD can be perfectly burnt, but wont work in ur system. Try in another if u can.

CdS

[CrackFinder]

I just compared "rise and fall" from file-to-file with its demo and I found that the problem file is TCPProtocol.dll, it is the file that call protect.dll to work but when I replace this file with TCPProtocolDemo.dll and rename it to TCPProtocol.dll I cannot work like I guessed before. It is another way to crack rise and fall by un-touch SF3.7.16.04 if some one can modify TCPProtocol.dll. Warggggggggggggg....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry for my noob English too.

[Maffi]

thx morglum for answer
tried 4 more of the mediatypes and it seems like your right with my NForce problem , hope someone gets the problem with the starforce done for us with a fix !

ill be stay tuned !

Greetz

[Morglum007]

I forgot some important thing for those nForce based mobos.

The next games DO NOT LAUNCH UNDER nForce SYSTEMS:

- Toca race driver 3
- War on terror
- LA rush
- GTI - Racing

Rise and fall, blazing angels and the other DVD SF protected titles DOES WORK in nForce based systems.

So, for this people experiencing problems with its nforce system, i highly encourage to try another "easy" game, like rise and fall. (Tests under a nforce4 based chipset).

CdSTeam

[Zulu]

btw. "Right media method" doesn't work anymore with Flatout 2 (SF 4.0.09.01); error message ("illegal copy") appears immediately. Looks like the announced ADIP check.

[Maffi]

tried the good image on a friends pc without Nforce™ chipset
and it workz out great !!!

sad for me with a Nforce system

Hope a fix will be released soon ?!? any ideas when ?


Greetz

[Morglum007]

Because of this method is media and hardware dependant ( as the old Safedisc and two sheep supported drives method) i think there is no fix yet for this problem. The only way is to force Nforce chipset company to release a new BIOS to block SF "intrussion". Until this, nForce systems will be "compromised" under SF.

As far as i know, someone said newer SF 4.0 included the so called ADIP check, to avoid this kind of copy. No problem at all, with a media hider, as in ATIP, or just executing under SCSI/RAID/USB, that overrides this kind of check.

We found at CdSTeam not only 3.7 SF versions are copied with this method. Also Panzers - Phase two is perfectly burnt under a Daxon media disc.

We will keep trying. In the other hand, see ur tries as a verification of our suspects. It is better to know "the truth" to walk in the darkness ^^

CdS

[Zulu]

Originally Posted by Morglum007

As far as i know, someone said newer SF 4.0 included the so called ADIP check, to avoid this kind of copy. No problem at all, with a media hider, as in ATIP, or just executing under SCSI/RAID/USB, that overrides this kind of check.

Neither media hider (->Emulation detected !) nor my RAID-Controller can cheat the check

[Morglum007]

Does ur drive support bit setting? U must change the book type when writing disc. Pioneer drives does not support that, but plextor and NEC, for example support it.

Anyway, what RAID controller do u have? SiS? ITE8212?

Brand tools usually works. Plextools for PLex drives for example do the job in Plextor, cause they used crypted access to drive, and SF cannot interfere with.

For other people, a tool must be coded.

[Zulu]

Controller: SiI 0649 RAID Controller
Burner: LG GSA 4163B
Media: PHILIPS 041, DAXON D42 (Flatout2 has same check as Rise & Fall & Co)

Burnt with Blindwrite 6 -> Emulation detected (Image)
Burnt with DVD Decrypter -> Illegal copy

A friend of mine tested with SiI 0680RAID: same results

[Morglum007]

When i could get a 4.0 SF protected title here in Spain, or when some companions give me little info about, i will reply in conditions, sorry.

By now, i havent a clear reply. An ADIP hider tool must be coded.

TIP: Bet on soldier - Blood in Sahara is fully burnable with Infodisc media (Memorex DVD+RW)

CdS