Crack to Darkstar One is out!!!! Get it here...

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA

Neither was I paid for it. But, mind you, neither of us are professional crackers, capable of defeating the top protections, so our lack of monetary funding proves nothing at all.

If I sat down I suppose I could tear apart one.



Im just annoyed that some people that has nothing to do with any groups etc, somehow can spout out that they know they get paid when they dont.

Just annoys me somewhat lol

[TippeX]

Originally Posted by DABhand

Im just annoyed that some people that has nothing to do with any groups etc, somehow can spout out that they know they get paid when they dont.
Just annoys me somewhat lol

okay, i think you know who i am... if not pm me, i know for a fact at least 2 of the big teams about oh 2-3 years ago WERE selling slots on ftp sites, WERE paying crackers with laptops and hardware, WERE selling cracks and 'releases' before they were even pre'd... and theres numerous reports of this in the scene, and the the police / fbi / whatnot evidence PROVES this fact... and made a lot of money out of it...

lets do the math.. one team i was in.. and im sure most of you will probably know it (and/or used at least one of the cracks i did)... cracks were sold like this...
safedisc / securom were $200 (i saw this in police reports), starforce and/or custom shit $250, pre-pre releases sold from $3000 upwards depending on the 'expected' popularity of the game, crackers might not have seen the money sure (some definately did, and bragged about it).. 800+ releases.. adds up to a nice little sum... which incidentally, i saw nothing of.. didnt make a penny

In hindsight i wish i never joined the scene, i wish i just cracked the stuff for myself... infact, i wish a lot of things... mostly that what happened never did happen...

so please, lets take the blinkers off....

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by TippeX

okay, i think you know who i am... if not pm me, i know for a fact at least 2 of the big teams about oh 2-3 years ago WERE selling slots on ftp sites, WERE paying crackers with laptops and hardware, WERE selling cracks and 'releases' before they were even pre'd... and theres numerous reports of this in the scene, and the the police / fbi / whatnot evidence PROVES this fact... and made a lot of money out of it...

lets do the math.. one team i was in.. and im sure most of you will probably know it (and/or used at least one of the cracks i did)... cracks were sold like this...
safedisc / securom were $200 (i saw this in police reports), starforce and/or custom shit $250, pre-pre releases sold from $3000 upwards depending on the 'expected' popularity of the game, crackers might not have seen the money sure (some definately did, and bragged about it).. 800+ releases.. adds up to a nice little sum... which incidentally, i saw nothing of.. didnt make a penny

In hindsight i wish i never joined the scene, i wish i just cracked the stuff for myself... infact, i wish a lot of things... mostly that what happened never did happen...

so please, lets take the blinkers off....

Jeesus, if that is indeed going on things have changed a hell of a lot.

They are setting themselves up for big time pokey or fines doing that.

You sure it was groups and not the TS admins that were doing that?

[HellasVagabond]

Nobody knows each other so what a few people say may be true.
My source was a big pirate web around Europe who were indeed paying BIG cracking groups lots of money in order to get cracked games.
However i knew them 4 years ago and not now since im only getting originals now with the exception of small games like pacman :P

[TippeX]

yup, it was definately going on, not the admins, 'seniors' of the group (not the siteops) were involved (in my case) - 4 or so of em, and it happened in other teams too, and yup, definately setting themselves up for big time in the slammer and / or fines, ad i said though this was about 3ish years ago, things may have changed in the scene since (i very much doubt it though), all i can say is ... to anyone thinking of 'joining' the scene, seriously do some research on the team..

[Vaelen]

You guys know anything of the +1 trainer up on GCW?
Nod32 tells me it's a keylogger..

[TippeX]

possibly a false positive, some trainers use dll's for hooking keypresses etc, best scan with another anti virus to cancel out the possiblity of a false positive... its happened a few times on other trainers