Toca Race driver 3 won't work with images

[The-S-Owl]

Since the current DVD burners can not burn DVDs in RAW mode, you can not make a 1:1 copy of anything protected With Starforce, Safedisc, Securom, etc. So you have to resort to virtual drives.

As far as I know, there is only one virtual drive NOT blacklisted by the Starforce version used on Toca 3 (v3.7.13), i.e. Daemon Tools 4.03 (although the SF website claims something else).

The only problem left is getting around the general SCSI drive blacklisting. For Safedisc and Securom, you can use free anti-blacklisting tools like CureROM, but Starforce thought it was needed to infiltrare a little deeper in your computer. Versions until 3.4 can be easily circumvented by using Starforce Nightmare, but since v3.5, SF has improved this blacklist by digging even deeper into your OS and hooking several system drivers functions (in v3.7 also your usb drivers), probably causing even more incompatibilities, especially with future Windows versions or other system upgrades.

So how to get around all this crap ? That seems to be hardware dependent: for some system configurations, you do not have to disconnect anything. These are the solutions you should try first (only 1 at a time, of course):
- use Starforce Nightmare to hide the optical drives
- disable your optical drives in the Windows hardware manager
- disable your optical drives in the BIOS

If none of these work, you will have to physically unplug them.

Edit: You can find more info about this on the Daemon Tools forum, nicely explained by NetSoerfer:
http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/t757...-tools-v4.html

[henry]

Well there a two ways to get around Starforce, some like SCCT need the backup(DVD+-RW) to be run from a DVD-ROM/RW drive in a USB 2 caddie.

Others like King Kong, POP T2T and recently TOCA Race driver 3, can be run in a DVD-ROM/RW drive connected via IDE and again on a DVD+-RW.
Nothing else required, no need to disconnect anything, no need to run anything either, but you will need an Nforce 4 mobo.

[Synbiote]

Originally Posted by henry

Well there a two ways to get around Starforce, some like SCCT need the backup(DVD+-RW) to be run from a DVD-ROM/RW drive in a USB 2 caddie.

Others like King Kong, POP T2T and recently TOCA Race driver 3, can be run in a DVD-ROM/RW drive connected via IDE and again on a DVD+-RW.
Nothing else required, no need to disconnect anything, no need to run anything either, but you will need an Nforce 4 mobo.

I have an nforce 4 mobo.. but still it won't work with an image >_<..
Disabling the drives doesn't seem to work either

[henry]

Originally Posted by Synbiote

I have an nforce 4 mobo.. but still it won't work with an image >_<..
Disabling the drives doesn't seem to work either

I never said an image, I said burned to a DVD/RW.
I also said no drives need to be disabled/unplugged as well.

What's the big deal with using images anyway? If it can be backed up to a disk, then your still not using the original.

[Synbiote]

True..but it would still find the mounting software(Daemon tools) and wil not run the game. not even using anti blacklist software

[henry]

Originally Posted by Synbiote

True..but it would still find the mounting software(Daemon tools) and wil not run the game. not even using anti blacklist software

I'm not using Daemon tools, I'm not using any anti-blacklisting software or anything to hide drives, nothing but the game.

Just pop the disk in the drive and it works.
It must be an RW and if it doesn't work in the drive connected via IDE, then a drive mounted in a USB2 caddie, either way still no hiding or disconnecting.

[Synbiote]

alright..will try it tonight.. it's a RW..so it wouldn't hurt
thx for the help so far