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Is it just me, or is the deviance crack just a fixed demo exe?
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According to http://fileforums.com/showthread.php...405#post311405, yes, it's been made from the demo's EXE...
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Rainbow Six - Lockdown is not the first StarForce 3.6 game published by UBISOFT that has been cracked, Brothers in Arms - Earned in Blood (UBISOFT) also has StarForce 3.6 and it was cracked quite fast after its release!
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Hold your horses! If Deviance's release comes from the demo's executable then it's only a "cheat", not a crack in the real meaning: if an update comes out for the retail version that also changes the game executable then Deviance's method won't work, they will have to actually crack the protected executable of the retail update.
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Is it just me, or is the deviance crack just a fixed demo exe?
Deviance ? Do they still exist ? I thought they were gone the time Hoodlum was busted ?
Well, seems they still exist
Theres one thing that kinda scares me:
If Reloaded gets busted, who's gonna crack all the games ? There are several other groups that can probably do Nocds for SD4 but i assume Reloaded will try to keep their way how to crack SR7 and SF3, so they wont spread it anywhere because of a) competition with other groups (that actually do not exist anymore) and the problem that the SF developers would try to fix anything that makes reversing the games possible :P

@ Joe:
There might be one advantage:
I'm not very well informed about that topic, but it's probably a lot easier to "recrack" it, since you have an unprotected executable and can compare it with the other one...
so with the help of the original, unprotected exe it could be easy to make a proper crack for a new/updated exe

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I'm not very well informed about that topic, but it's probably a lot easier to "recrack" it, since you have an unprotected executable and can compare it with the other one...
Read my post at top :-)
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Deviance ? Do they still exist ? I thought they were gone the time Hoodlum was busted ?
Well, seems they still exist
Theres one thing that kinda scares me:
If Reloaded gets busted, who's gonna crack all the games ? There are several other groups that can probably do Nocds for SD4 but i assume Reloaded will try to keep their way how to crack SR7 and SF3, so they wont spread it anywhere because of a) competition with other groups (that actually do not exist anymore) and the problem that the SF developers would try to fix anything that makes reversing the games possible :P

@ Joe:
There might be one advantage:
I'm not very well informed about that topic, but it's probably a lot easier to "recrack" it, since you have an unprotected executable and can compare it with the other one...
so with the help of the original, unprotected exe it could be easy to make a proper crack for a new/updated exe
Deviance exists in name only. They even changed the nfo layout. The only thing they have in common with the old Deviance is name, and nothing else.

BTW RLD is doing SD4 cracks due to a hole in the protection that can be easily fixed anytime, and is left open due to the developers stupidness. Do not expect many SD4 cracks from them unless the developers continue being stupid, or unless RLD finally crack SDAPI at its best.
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From what I have gathered the Deviance crack for Rainbow Six Lockdown is proper (aka not Demo.exe). BUT they seem to have used the demo.exe in order to get some hints on how to remove starforce from .exe file.

And yes the now working deviance is only deviance in name nothing else.
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they should also try to crack other sf3.6 games - glory awaits for those who succeed:P
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HEH, well its about a time to strike them (Starforce developers) back!
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I must apoligize about my inane comment saying that Deviance used the demo exe. They didn't. They just used it for help in cracking. So yes, this crack is pretty valid...
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This is only a Guess

Everything starts from an Executable file, But where does it go to when it starts the Game ? I am more curious as to what an exe does...

1. does it go to directly at a protected file etc... before it go's to the section that allows the Game to start up & work.

2. or does it go to the Section that Starts the Game 1st & then back to a Protected file & then decides if it should still load or not ?

What I am thinking is that if the Exe file is pointing the way to the Protected file or Files then couldn't you just create a exe file that By passes that stuff & go's Directly to the file that starts the Game.

Maybe even something like a Loader if its possible...

Mind you it might sound funny to some & I am a Curious guy but I no absolutly nothing when it comes to Cracking these things.

Could I be correct or Not ?
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