REQ: Stolen trainers to be removed from GCW

[apache-yesitisme]

well well. here we are

My humble opinion is that i cant effing stand people who steal options ..i have had it happen to me in the past (yes..you know who you are) but what can you do?..indeed i have had fuckwits even accuse moi of ripping options..now come on anyone with half a head and a loaf of bread and who really knows me, knows i dont have to steal anyones options
i agree with the majority here that trainers should not have their files hosted until it can be safely proven its their own work but on the other hand just because cali and chris release a trainer with 5 options and the same day somebody else releases a trainer with equal options, why should it be labeled a ch rip? and as for some code areas ..come on we are all a little lazy and if 1 area of code does the job why go looking for a rare areas and especially concerning the ammo etc
i wont defend a trainer ripper ever, but why should one website dictate another?
it almost reads like cheathappens are saying that gcw would actually be hurt (hits wise, financially?) if cheathappens stops sending the 'promo' trainers or full after their release date, but what would stop anyone harvesting them (once ch has sent them to any other website)? as for 'promo'trainers, well they benefit the maker more than the host, i know this because i was the first(probably) person to make 'promo' trainers, a little respect for trainer makers goes a long way and lets hope that cheathappens screaming thief everytime a trainer is == to one of theirs won't put off the fledgling makers out there.
have they got the right to scream when somebody clones a trainer made by them?, if they can 100% prove it , then they sure have
but dictating what other site owners can do with their own site is over the top even if i do agree with banning kelsat's trainers for ripping
Now as for paying trainers..hmmm iam all for it!! and why not? i used to have this arguement with probably the same arseholes about the same reasons.
anyone who is anyone knows some pretty long hours go into making a trainer and even more into making a great trainer so why not expect reward for it whether its simply recognition or payment
plus it makes the competition stiffer and ecourages the free trainer makers to go beyond the norm and 'man-up' their own work so its a win -win situation for the enduser

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by apache-yesitisme

well well. here we are

My humble opinion is that i cant effing stand people who steal options ..i have had it happen to me in the past (yes..you know who you are) but what can you do?..indeed i have had fuckwits even accuse moi of ripping options..now come on anyone with half a head and a loaf of bread and who really knows me, knows i dont have to steal anyones options
i agree with the majority here that trainers should not have their files hosted until it can be safely proven its their own work but on the other hand just because cali and chris release a trainer with 5 options and the same day somebody else releases a trainer with equal options, why should it be labeled a ch rip? and as for some code areas ..come on we are all a little lazy and if 1 area of code does the job why go looking for a rare areas and especially concerning the ammo etc
i wont defend a trainer ripper ever, but why should one website dictate another?
it almost reads like cheathappens are saying that gcw would actually be hurt (hits wise, financially?) if cheathappens stops sending the 'promo' trainers or full after their release date, but what would stop anyone harvesting them (once ch has sent them to any other website)? as for 'promo'trainers, well they benefit the maker more than the host, i know this because i was the first(probably) person to make 'promo' trainers, a little respect for trainer makers goes a long way and lets hope that cheathappens screaming thief everytime a trainer is == to one of theirs won't put off the fledgling makers out there.
have they got the right to scream when somebody clones a trainer made by them?, if they can 100% prove it , then they sure have
but dictating what other site owners can do with their own site is over the top even if i do agree with banning kelsat's trainers for ripping
Now as for paying trainers..hmmm iam all for it!! and why not? i used to have this arguement with probably the same arseholes about the same reasons.
anyone who is anyone knows some pretty long hours go into making a trainer and even more into making a great trainer so why not expect reward for it whether its simply recognition or payment
plus it makes the competition stiffer and ecourages the free trainer makers to go beyond the norm and 'man-up' their own work so its a win -win situation for the enduser

Hey patchster

I think I found your Enter button :P heheeh nahh im joking, I know your more than capable, and I agree this could have been handled better.

I agree perhaps nop'ing out a sub or add op same as both trainers should not be suspicious, but kelsat has used options with flaws in the coding that were deliberate and he copied the whole damn code.

I say we blame Sunbeam and his "How to update trainers" tutorial from a few years back, perhaps if tuts like that were not around maybe some of these numbnuts wouldnt know what they could do with olly.

[apache-yesitisme]

heya Dabs patchster..havent been called that for a long time ..ahh the good old days lmfao

Knowledge is power , so they say. but i think hindsight is a greater force

[Jacardis]

DABhand it's good thing your not mod either. because now i can just ignore your post regarding me as irrelevant trash post. all these post resolve around people expressing there opinions so i figure i express my own. this reason why i don't go to forum much anymore because there always some ass who thinks just because he got some dam high post count he can trash new members

[Joe Forster/STA]

And you're both lucky I'm a patient mod... Seriously, stop it and concentrate on making up constructive ideas to solve the problem described in this thread instead.

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Jacardis

DABhand it's good thing your not mod either. because now i can just ignore your post regarding me as irrelevant trash post. all these post resolve around people expressing there opinions so i figure i express my own. this reason why i don't go to forum much anymore because there always some ass who thinks just because he got some dam high post count he can trash new members

I know what Joe said... But look at it this way, your the one who came flaunting in and declared everyone "crying brats" now you had a taste of your own medicine your gonna cry.

Jeez louise, yes this thread is defo not for you :P

Yes expressing your opinion is good, but you dont know how to do that and think attacking others is expressing your opinion, guess what it doesnt lol

[self]

i just see:

- another nice PR action from shithappens.

kelsat maybe rip trainer options, that suxx true. But he had some(really rare) good moments too. see his hawx trainer.

i dont like that they (CH) claim be a seriuos business, but on the same breath they spread their promo trainers on webpages which hold , in most countries in the world, 'illegal' content (g_bw,gcw etc.).

if gcw ban kelsat trainer then they should ban the promo trainers too. nothing against the full trainer from shithappens, i think is promo enuff.
i love gcw coz they hold quality stuff, and not crippled things!

Best Regards

Self.fish

[DABhand]

That whole post you made needs a slap into reality.

And its like a 12 year old on his mobile wrote the whole thing.

But the Best Regards kinda makes it easier to figure out who wrote it :P

[Caliber]

the point of this thread was to describe an intolerable situation where a site that we partner with is hosting content that uses stolen code locations / solutions from our work at CH. we were giving a head's up as to why we choose not to partner with GCW any longer due to this situation. it's not really a problem for us so much as it is a problem for GCW who is chosing to host content that has been ripped from our trainers, which in turn we cannot support them by sending more of our trainers (not just the PROMOS, people!) for them to post here. so they can now host the few kelsat, unsupported WAREZ trainer versions (which are mostly copies of our CH trainers) instead of our 40 or more trainers that we sent here each month (not uncluding the PROMOS). it's that simple-

[Chalirum]

Good job admins, you can bend all the way, now there is no reason to get trainers from GCW, just go to CH and skip the middleman.

BTW Youtube, google, myspace and a gazzilion other pages all are free, all have tons of people working day and night on them. CH is pathetic.

[TwwIX]

You are pathetic. You just got your panties in a bunch because the guy uploads and offers his trainers for free. Cheathappens.com is nothing but a ripoff. You people use illegally downloaded games to make your trainers.
You have already several trainers out for games that aren't even out yet. You are a bunch of hypocrites! The Godfather 2 isn't even out yet but somehow you managed to release a trainer for the full game. Keep your piss poor excuses to yourself. Anybody gullible enough to pay a subscription to a bunch of pirating pricks is a fucking moron. I have reported you to EA and their affiliates for modifying their games files and charging for it.
It just a matter of time till you get shut down.

[Chalirum]

Ch says: "We've been in this industry for over 60 years so we've had quite a bit of time to build relationships. We get games for free weeks before the premiere, because EA loves us." or smth along those lines.

That's a weird excuse since magically their trainer works with the scene's crack.

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by TwwIX

You are pathetic. You just got your panties in a bunch because the guy uploads and offers his trainers for free. Cheathappens.com is nothing but a ripoff. You people use illegally downloaded games to make your trainers.
You have already several trainers out for games that even out yet. You are a bunch of hypocrites! The Godfather 2 isn't even out yet but somehow you managed to release a trainer for the full game. Keep your piss poor excuses to yourself. Anybody gullible enough to pay a subscription to a bunch of pirating pricks is a fucking moron. I have reported you to EA and their affiliates modifying their games files and charging for it.
It just a matter of time till you get shut down.

Wow what an Idiot, do you charge your boss for working?

Yes welcome to real life.

If Caliber sits for hours and hours searching the coding of a game to bring people options to make a quality trainer and if he wants to work for someone who gives them out to paying customers, be it a yearly or lifetime subscription to access as many trainers as they want (during the year if yearly), and updated trainers for updated games, then so be it. Just like its your choice to volunteer your work to someone or make them pay for it. So who is the hypocrit now.

And mouthing off obscenities doesnt make you stronger or clever, it makes you look well less of a person. Its not illegal to make trainers and/or sell your own, so I think you should read up more on that side of the law as you have been reading the propaganda on gamefaqs again havent we, were the masses of warez users amass and complain and cry that quality trainers are not free of which they are all used to.

But if your going to complain and whine and swear, join the queue at gamefaqs im sure they will be happy to have you there.

[TippeX]

well if they do make such a statement then its quite easy to find out.. because there is something interesting about the godfather 2 release....

[DABhand]

As Pwiz said, thats how GF2 got out early as someone who works for a magazine etc leaked it.