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[TippeX]

Originally Posted by jwest

As I believe to use the original disk will most certainly reinstall SecuROM and this is why I need the no-cd, right! I am unable to play without the disk and this is what I want to do otherwise I wouldn't have downloaded the no cd.

erm securom isn't installed, securom is 'with' the game executable, its not seperately installed (this is the common misconception i was talking about), when you run the game, at that point, and at that point only is securom active.. once you exit the game, securom isn't active anymore..

Are you saying that SecuROM does not get put back on your PC if you use the original CD? I doubt very much if that's hype as that's how it got there in the first place. Maybe you just didn't understand what I wrote.

securom is only 'on' your pc in the executable, you have believed the hype and fallen for it, securom is not malware etc either (another misconception on the forums)... and i fully understood what you wrote, and your beliefs have clouded your judgement, when running the securom game, the only thing left on your pc is the license information (the activation stuff).. thats it

if you hate a protection, thats fair enough, but please don't jump on the anti-* bandwagon, especially if you haven't done any research into the claims made on various sites..

I'm not good on spec, I'm in multimedia not hardware, so not good on this.

P.S. My problem with SecuROM was that it made my DVD drive pop in and out on it's own free will. Yes, I have virus checked with Norton 360, I have also scanned with spybot and adaware SE. Clean PC.

unfortunately, thats total nonsense, do you think if securom actually did that, you would be the only person reporting it? it would be wide spread over the inet.. it seriously sounds like you have some trojan/mallware on your machine. scanning with norton 360 isn't actually a good thing either (1. its crap, 2. it false positives a lot).. try using an online virus scanner (google for 'free online virus scan' and you'll find a lot.. panda, trendmicro, kaspersky etc) and scan with one of them...

*Additional info* SecuROM also messed with my Nero and I'm finding it hard to burn video's. No, I don't burn illegal stuff. Like I said multimedia here.

again, i find this hard to believe.. something else is messing about on your system... if you can prove any of the claims 100% (ie: can reproduce it flawlessly) then i'll happly look into it for you, but believe me, i've analysed pretty much every protection out there and your claims contradict what i see...

i firmly believe your machine is trojaned (or similar) and that is the cause for your problems.. which then in turn makes me question your source...

you said the game asks for the original.. so what happens when you put in the original disk?

Originally Posted by TippeX

erm securom isn't installed, securom is 'with' the game executable, its not seperately installed (this is the common misconception i was talking about), when you run the game, at that point, and at that point only is securom active.. once you exit the game, securom isn't active anymore..



securom is only 'on' your pc in the executable, you have believed the hype and fallen for it, securom is not malware etc either (another misconception on the forums)... and i fully understood what you wrote, and your beliefs have clouded your judgement, when running the securom game, the only thing left on your pc is the license information (the activation stuff).. thats it

if you hate a protection, thats fair enough, but please don't jump on the anti-* bandwagon, especially if you haven't done any research into the claims made on various sites..

I'm not good on spec, I'm in multimedia not hardware, so not good on this.



unfortunately, thats total nonsense, do you think if securom actually did that, you would be the only person reporting it? it would be wide spread over the inet.. it seriously sounds like you have some trojan/mallware on your machine. scanning with norton 360 isn't actually a good thing either (1. its crap, 2. it false positives a lot).. try using an online virus scanner (google for 'free online virus scan' and you'll find a lot.. panda, trendmicro, kaspersky etc) and scan with one of them...



again, i find this hard to believe.. something else is messing about on your system... if you can prove any of the claims 100% (ie: can reproduce it flawlessly) then i'll happly look into it for you, but believe me, i've analysed pretty much every protection out there and your claims contradict what i see...

i firmly believe your machine is trojaned (or similar) and that is the cause for your problems.. which then in turn makes me question your source...

you said the game asks for the original.. so what happens when you put in the original disk?

Uhm, the problems I had ARE actually reported widely all over the net, that's how I know what caused it. No trojans here, have checked with online virus before and yet still Norton 360 found stuff they didn't and removed it. I amvery careful and fully scan anything that lands in my downloads before I do a thing, I guess I just got that from experience of getting worms and trojans in the past, it keep me clean though.

Oh, incidently, I did get another crack and it installed beautifully. No problems. Suddenly I can use my Nero again with no problems and I was able to reactivate my dvd drive. The opening and shutting of the drawer has ceased and I haven't even removed any trojans.

The issues with SecuROM are all over the net. Oddly a lot of people seem to be getting the same problems. One of the legal issues with SecuROM is that it shuts down things that may be a threat to security, which it has no business to do. It's cool to disagree with me, I'm sure you have done your homework too.

Thanks for all the help but my issue is now fixed and the thread can now be closed

Thanks

[TippeX]

Originally Posted by jwest

The issues with SecuROM are all over the net. Oddly a lot of people seem to be getting the same problems. One of the legal issues with SecuROM is that it shuts down things that may be a threat to security, which it has no business to do. It's cool to disagree with me, I'm sure you have done your homework too

total nonsense, never once have i seen securom shutdown anything, sure, you might get a 'security module' messagebox, but shutting down processes etc is illegal, and somehow i suspect sony know that...
so i very much doubt they'd do it.. there is a lot of misinformation out there about various protections, and a hell of a lot of it is (put simply) crap...

so, you got it all sorted using a mini image or a crack?

[Joe Forster/STA]

Originally Posted by jwest

No trojans here, have checked with online virus before and yet still Norton 360 found stuff they didn't and removed it. I amvery careful and fully scan anything that lands in my downloads before I do a thing

Get rid of Norton stuff, they've mostly been junk for the last few years. For recommended virus scanners, see the PC Games forum FAQ; for recommended firewalls, see http://www.matousec.com/projects/fir...ge/results.php.