Mass Effect - NO DISCUSSION OF CRACKS!!!

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by anzial

IIRC, it checks every few days or so that the serial has not been compromised. But what if I don't have internet when it does check? I.e., I'm on the move, out in nowhere, decided to relax and play ME, and it starts complaining it can't find home server. Then there's also a problem with the security of the purchase - what if the serial gets generated by some online generator? It's gonna be hard to prove that you didn't post it somewhere. Also, 3 installs is pretty limited. I've installed on my desktop and laptop, and I'm upgrading my desktop soon (got new cpu). I might also replace notebook in a few months. So I've pretty much exhausted all my 3 installs, all in a week or so since the purchase, and if I got for a new laptop, I won't be able to install the game I own on a computer I own? I'd say, this is not fair to paying customers who have to jump through the hoops to use what they paid for, all the while the warez users have the time of their life. Lets face - ME will be cracked, sooner or later, and those who pirate the game, won't have a single issue, while us, the paying customers, will have a ton of limitations on the fair use of the product. If Gamecopyworld does not see that online checks are pretty much the same thing as cd-checks, well then, I'm pretty sure we'll have another site like this one, but with cracks for new games, while GCW will gradually become obsolete

I have to admit you have been listening to people who think they know what they are talking about when they dont.

Your unique serial being made by a Key Generator is a very very very low chance of yours getting picked.

Seeing as most Key Generators will develop a key from either the last digits of the key or totally generated from scratch, the odds are very very high for yours getting matched. Even if it does by some coincedence you have the proof of purchase and serial which you can prove is yours.

And online checks are nothing like cd-checks. Cd-checks requires a cd/dvd-rom and media to be used while online checks are just a simple software check.

And yeah GCW has been around alot longer than most of the "other" sites.

[anzial]

Originally Posted by DABhand

I have to admit you have been listening to people who think they know what they are talking about when they dont.

Your unique serial being made by a Key Generator is a very very very low chance of yours getting picked.

Seeing as most Key Generators will develop a key from either the last digits of the key or totally generated from scratch, the odds are very very high for yours getting matched. Even if it does by some coincedence you have the proof of purchase and serial which you can prove is yours.

And online checks are nothing like cd-checks. Cd-checks requires a cd/dvd-rom and media to be used while online checks are just a simple software check.

And yeah GCW has been around alot longer than most of the "other" sites.

I don't see how you would respond to 3 activation limit. Furthermore, when I talked about the longevity of GCW, all I meant is that in this fast-moving world with exponential progress in IT, failure to recognize the trend that PC games are moving away from CDs to online delivery will ultimately spell doom to GCW, if it chooses to stick to catering to the owners of the increasingly obsolete tech. In other words, PC game developers will no longer use CD check at all (for example, there's no protection on ME DVD, I've checked myself - made a copy and installed the game off it w/o any issues), so online check becomes the ONLY source of validation, as CD-check was in the past - hence my parallel.

Since serial is the only source of authenticity, it may cause loads of grief if it's ever compromised due to craptastic online/phone support - if u ever used that, u'd know u want to stay away from that. Thus, as far as I am concerned, maybe the risk of duplicate serial is low, even very low, but it's still unacceptable - I don't want to waste my time proving my innocence, esp. if it does happen, tech support will stick to ur logic - that duplication impossible and blame me for the leak, and will NOT issue me another key. Read the forums at Bioware if you don't believe me - that's the policy they adopted. So the problem is not proving that that particular serial is mine but that I didn't post it somewhere for everyone to use. However minuscule is this chance, this sort of policy is unacceptable for a paying customer like me. I want access to a fix that will allow me, rightful owner of the software, to continue to use in the case when the developer fails to insure the same.

Finally, I suggest you to refrain from further patronizing me. You can't know what I do know and what I don't, and neither do I claim that I know better than you.

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by anzial

I don't see how you would respond to 3 activation limit. Furthermore, when I talked about the longevity of GCW, all I meant is that in this fast-moving world with exponential progress in IT, failure to recognize the trend that PC games are moving away from CDs to online delivery will ultimately spell doom to GCW, if it chooses to stick to catering to the owners of the increasingly obsolete tech. In other words, PC game developers will no longer use CD check at all (for example, there's no protection on ME DVD, I've checked myself - made a copy and installed the game off it w/o any issues), so online check becomes the ONLY source of validation, as CD-check was in the past - hence my parallel.

Since serial is the only source of authenticity, it may cause loads of grief if it's ever compromised due to craptastic online/phone support - if u ever used that, u'd know u want to stay away from that. Thus, as far as I am concerned, maybe the risk of duplicate serial is low, even very low, but it's still unacceptable - I don't want to waste my time proving my innocence, esp. if it does happen, tech support will stick to ur logic - that duplication impossible and blame me for the leak, and will NOT issue me another key. Read the forums at Bioware if you don't believe me - that's the policy they adopted. So the problem is not proving that that particular serial is mine but that I didn't post it somewhere for everyone to use. However minuscule is this chance, this sort of policy is unacceptable for a paying customer like me. I want access to a fix that will allow me, rightful owner of the software, to continue to use in the case when the developer fails to insure the same.

Finally, I suggest you to refrain from further patronizing me. You can't know what I do know and what I don't, and neither do I claim that I know better than you.

I wasnt patronising you, I was responding to what you previously said.

Also you did say Online Authentication is the same as CD-checks to which I replied that its not.

Like I said you have been listening to others who are very negative in their way of thinking. And you have adopted this.

So you have a 3 install limit, that is because its to stop someone from giving the game out to friends and they install also, so after 3rd install it would be easy to extend it. They say this if you read your game info.

Online delivery? Where the hell did that come from? Just because the game checks online doesnt mean every game in the future will be downloadable only.

It wont spell doom for GCW just because GCW doesnt support online authentication work arounds, now think about it if a crack is used to get around the 3 install limits etc you think this is good? No it does support piracy more than the legit user this is why GCW wont support it.

And as I said, the only limit is the install limit, the rest is easy and you should be able to play no problem.