Daemon Kernel Debugger issue

[TippeX]

starforce preach was ur post.. soz grumpy , but yeh..

if you want to use a kernel debugger (windbg in kernel mode, softice, syser? etc..) then you simply cant use alc/daemon tools latest versions (due to a 'conflict' from sptd.sys.. not really a conflict.. just the sptd coders dont want you to see what they're doing.. although their anti debug is 'bypassable' if you know what you're doing)..

ring 3 (ie not driver based) debuggers like olly etc can be used (though they do have a little anti-debug in the daemon tools / alc exe program... and a vm)

[Grumpy]

@TippeX

starforce preach was ur post.. soz grumpy , but yeh..

Did you not realize it was me or something?? Have you been on the Amber Fluids again?
I am still confused that you thought I was preaching starforce.

But you did say 'most' people are aware of it, that doesnt mean all. And I am aware of most people here.

[ByteMare]

Basically, SF is shit and everybody knows it..their latest move to "kill" DT is more lame...why improve a protection that everybody hates? Like the costumer wanted "improvements"...

Release
crappy game
protection issues
consumer pissed off
excuses
bla bla
more bla bla
patch
fix
excuses
consumer pissed 2 the max
bla bla
protection removed

weee,,,,

[TippeX]

you forgot 'issues when service packs of operating systems were released, which rendered the game unplayable until the sf people released patches' and 'system stability compromised'