Starforce Petition!

[Avi H]

ARG! i hate SF, finally people have theior say about it!
i will NEVER BUY any SF games in my lafe, screw SF! hope the SF developers can read it and now know that they cause only harm to the games they protect! because now they are boycot death to SF!

[DABhand]

Would be interesting to know how many who signed the petition are warez users who couldnt figure out how to play their ill gotten gains :P


I bet its a high number lol

[DUKE_NUKEM]

Besides there's probably a high number of users who are tired of:
1.waiting minutes for a disc validation
2.booting and rebooting everytime they install a sf-protected game
3.loosing the complete control of their pc\os
4.having their hardware damaged by starforce virus (oooops, driver.)

Defeating piracy is not really a good excuse to not guarantee to legit users QUALITY and SAFETY anymore. A good protection shouldn't have hard&soft compatibility issues; if piracy "harms consumers as well as legitimate developers", Starforce harms "warez users as well as legitimate players".
And remember, even if in most cases to play backups it's needed to unplug ide drives, in some cases people who have original copies are obliged to buy new drives cause starforce broke theirs (The same thing happened to me with Still Life).
Go checking Ubisoft Official Forum: you'll read a lot of comments of people disappointed by the choice of SF3 for POP - The Two Trones: maybe they're all game downloaders, but does it really matter for an honest gamer who would like to play peacefully, already having to struggle with graphucz\control\etc. settings? I guess not, and that's why I'll go for the Xbox version of the game. But this is a compromise, not a solution.

[Joe Forster/STA]

Originally Posted by DABhand

Would be interesting to know how many who signed the petition are warez users who couldnt figure out how to play their ill gotten gains :P

I bet its a high number lol

As long as people don't discuss warez on this forum, noone has the right to - directly or indirectly - question the legality of their games. That's the reversal of forum rule #1 so, please, refrain from such comments.

[revolver]

I have boycotted starforce for years and will continue to do so as for wheather someone owns an orginal or warez. it anit anyones business but that person if they wanna uses warez gd luck to them

but i cant blame them when it comes to starforces

[Sirrus]

Someone talked about pirate games...

if the games were cheaper, it would force the pirate users to buy the original. Because a game is not only consist of a simple disc. it has manuals, support centers... some of them got maps, poster and so on. comparing these with a cd-r (with considering the cheap prices also), pirate user would think and buy the original. so game companies would sell the games to everyone. only change was pirates would **** themselves

[Joe Forster/STA]

Fact #1. Most people crack copy protections just for fun and pride, not to make money. (I do. ) Whatever paysite owners, Chinese fake CD/DVD manufacturers or everyday warez users do with cracks is another story...

Fact #2. Today, it is very difficult to publish (even finish!) a game without a publisher. Developing a game costs a lot of time and money, and the publisher loans to the developer during this time period. In change, the developer gets like 2-5% percent of the profit (yeah, you read that right; I read this on this forum and got confirmed by a friend of mine, too!), the rest goes to the publisher and the vendor. A few developers do get their stuff publisher in online downloadable form (Live for Speed; games released via Steam), though, to get rid of the money-hungry publishers and vendors...!

As for fact #2, if you look closely, this is the same with music, as well: it is music publishers that get irrationally rich, not the actual artists that make the music. It is not only game business but the whole economy that is majorly f*cked up, because of only a few greedy millionaires and billionaires...

(Do I sound apocalyptic in such posts of mine?! )

[dajunka]

This is fantastic. The starf**k boycott has really taken off. Every where I serf someones talking about boycotting SF, even on the SF forum itself. The publishers must be feeling the pinch by now, I know game developers are sick to the back teeth with it. Long live the death of StarForce.

[Sirrus]

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA

(Do I sound apocalyptic in such posts of mine?! )

i don't know, but i liked it

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA

As long as people don't discuss warez on this forum, noone has the right to - directly or indirectly - question the legality of their games. That's the reversal of forum rule #1 so, please, refrain from such comments.

Not Really Joe, it is a genuine question.


Trying to figure out who has the most problems, legitimate users or warez kiddies.


That would kinda show how bad SF is or isnt.

[DUKE_NUKEM]

Dabhand I guess you don't really get it. The point is Starforce should cause NO problems to legitimate users, as this comes BEFORE causing problems to warez kiddies. I don't think people who are used to d'load gamez would buy SF-protected games as they can't play with warez versions; on the other hand, a lot of honest players just stopped buying them. You can verify it by yourself, the solution is worse then the problem itself.

[Sirrus]

Why they additionaly don't search our chatlogs, mails, posts of our forum accounts, even our google search strings with the application of SF?!?!?

I want it! Scan me you bas**rds!

[revolver]

IT shouldnt be a problem to anyone be it they own an original or warez

the simple fact is starforce is f**ked it's is an intrusion of your pc as it doesnt ask permission to install it just does it and also only people who
wish to play without dvd or cd will have problems

so it not whether its a warez or orginal thats the problem its those of us who want to play without a dvd or cd that have problems which is nearly everone on this forum