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Old 18-05-2005, 16:20
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I don't buy any starforce protected game, never ever. It's crap and one more step to a global fascism, whenever some concerns own the whole world.
But just they will be satan's slaves.
Maybe time to stop playing?
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Old 19-05-2005, 01:18
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lol ppl
99% here cant emulate the SF and there is no crack to it, so they became angry
relax, okay games you like, forget about drivers - it didnt do any "backdoor" work
http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=91
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Old 19-05-2005, 02:15
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@nerva
Unfortunately that link has no date on the page! I have read that before and it could refer to any version of Starforce? I assure you the later versions of Starforce is a whole new ball game!
Of course Starforce are not going to tell you openly about the hidden fuctions of thier protection!
A Quote from the first paragraph from that site:
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Those drivers are necessary for the StarForce specific CD/DVD checking procedure, only. They do not include any hidden functionality. The drivers are active only at execution of the protected application.
If they do not include any hidden functionality and are only active at the execution of the application then why is it then you can now no longer read the dpm info from your other CD's!! So by installing the latest Starforce Protection you will be prevented from performing a function you were able to do before. In my opinion, and I am sure many will agree, that itself is a hidden function! Nowhere do Starforce mention this!
Look many can argue we are only picking up a fuss because we cant rip of games anymore! I am self employed and earn very good dollars, I dont need to steal games! But I do like to be able to walk into a shop and purchase a game which will not cause havoc to my system!
What we are trying to do here is make people aware that all is not what it seems in the Protection industry!
Nerva, you say there is no backdoor function, well clearly none that you know of!
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As a rule I dont buy SF protected games and I warn every gamer I know about the danger the SF drivers pose.

As for taking it to court it wouldnt be much of a trial:

Lawyer: You work for <insert game publisher>?
Witness: Yes.
Lawyer: SF protection was intentionally included?
Witness: Yes.
Lawyer: Did you research it first?

At this point whether the guy says yes or no the game company is admitting to criminal negligence =P

If they researched it and failed to warn the consumer = guilty.
If they didnt they failed to ensure their product was safe = guilty.

Contractual limited liability clauses dont apply to criminal cases only civil torts brought by the consumer
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But you're viewing the situation from the wrong point of view! Suing Starforce's ass off when the copy protection breaks your PC is relatively simple, especially, if a few unlucky gamers unite and act against Starforce as a group, not only as several individuals. ("Corporate lawsuit", is that what this is called? Yes, my law English sucks, too!)

The real problem is proving that it was Starforce - and nothing else! - that broke your PC. That's why they're so eager to find people that can potentially show this to them...!
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