GT4 Backup

Jay_83 · #1 27-03-2005, 03:46

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Originally Posted by SurfDrifter

You pay the same amount of money for Bust-A-Move and for GT4! .

Not in the UK you don't. All budget titles such as bustamove etc are released at £19.99 max. Many blockbuster stores here put a standard retail price of £12.99 on these from new.

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Originally Posted by SurfDrifter

Imagine that Company A developed a game for 6 months and the consumer bought it for 60€ and Company B that developed a game for 4 years and gets paid the same. .

The same can be said about music, the price of recording the album/video can be drastically different but at the end of the day the more popular ranges will always sell more. Hence why GT4 took years to make and as you stated Bust - A Move was simply a arcade conversion. It'l never sell nowhere near as much as GT4 hence less profit.

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1) Why games cost differently between platforms? For instance, PC version costs 40€ and PS2 version cost 60€. I believe it has to do with royalties that pump up the price. .

The PC takes a lot less time to program for than a Console, with regards to cross console platform prices they're generally the same in the UK.

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2) Why there's a huge difference in price tags of the SAME game, same platform, in different territories?.

Take an RPG for example, Square-enix games created in Japan, then need to have all speech and ingame text translated and rerecorded (FFX for example). As for most other games yet again I can't see much price difference from buying the Jap region from LIK-SANG, the USA Region or the PAL.

The main point is that in your previous post you claimed

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I believe that this game must be the biggest commercial hit ever. Every person on the planet playing GT4 is using an original game!

simply because it can't be backed up at the moment. Thats what annoys me

ottoman · #2 27-03-2005, 04:44

I think were getting into two separate issues here:

Firstly its illegal (in the uk at least) to make a backup of a ps2 game anyway.

The arguement goes something like this:

Consumer: Generic software law states that I am permitted to make one backup of any software I LEGALLY OWN.

Sony: But the PS2 won't run backups so why would you need to.

Consumer: Cos I've got this mod chip fitted which allows me to boot backups.

Sony: Great, we'll bring a test case against some mod chip suppliers and fitters and make the whole mod chip fitting process illegal.

And they did sucessfully. Therefore law would consider the process of even making a backup illegal.

As for the P1ss poor games that turn up on the PS2.......Sony are very picky on the release of the console. The initial software releases are very carefully quality checked to be of the top standards but after 6 months or so they just don't care. They'll sell the dev kit to anyone and as a result, any old crap that will fit onto a cd or dvd. I don't care if it takes 1000 years to develope a game. Its either good or bad...It's either worth the money or its not. And blaming Piracy for killing the game industry is rediculous. If a game is really good, people will buy it. Whether they copy games or not. If a game sucz no one will buy it anyway hence the developer will suffer whether people are copying it or d/ling it. We simply need better games...

Jay, consider this.....If there was no way to copy or pirate a game people would still not buy crap games and the developers would still suffer just as much because there games wouldn't sell. And i don't believe for a second that prices would fall if piracy didn't exist. People are greedy by nature mostly, especially business people and if people are willing to pay the price they set then why drop it!

Jay_83 · #3 27-03-2005, 05:04

Modchips may be deemed to be illegal in the uk but are still freely available from the right sources. They've been ripped from sites selling in the UK because they're **** scared sony will file a lawsuit against them, not because they're not selling them anymore. Until they create a law against them we're not gonna know one way or another. One case can't make this a legitimate statement.

Ottoman no offence mate but have you even read everything else i've put??

""Support the developer, buy the game. If you're not sure if it's worth it just bloody rent it.""

Also I can guarentee you if piracy didn't exist that Rockstar Games, Bungie and many more DECENT developers WOULD have higher profits. There's people always posting, "Why is my backup of GTA saying disc read error" reply "Use the original" Answer "I don't have it, I rented it, lent it my friend, the dog eat it"

spedmetal · #4 27-03-2005, 12:33

YES!! This is becoming a very interesting thread.

snake2 · #5 27-03-2005, 13:36

if you can't aford the games then why would you have the system that plays the games?

ottoman · #6 27-03-2005, 17:03

Well no offence Jay but have you even read everything else i've put??

In principal i agree with you. I don't copy games. However my grevances regarding this matter just differ to yours.

I'm not going to support a developer by buying their games if they suck. Nor am i going to pay to try a game out (by renting).

On the other side of the coin i'm not going to bother pirating them either if they suck.

I'm simply saying that if games had to be vetted for quality and quantity before they were sold game standards would be higher and more people would be willing to fork money out for them.

As for mod chip sales, i'm well aware that its just as easy to get hold of them as it always has been. Doesn't change the fact that because sony won a case against a supplier, they'd win a case against any other supplier they sued, whether its official law or not....It might as well be genuine law.

SurfDrifter · #7 27-03-2005, 15:30

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