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[Luci]

you're becoming more hatefull(is that correct???)than BW

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Luci

you're becoming more hatefull(is that correct???)than BW

Whose BW?

[Asimov]

@DABhand

BW is the hatefull guy.

I believe Luci is refering to Bounty Warrior.

[GLH]

Are you feeling the SWORD OF DAMOKLES above your heads?
BountyWarrior isn't BountyWarrior anymore. His name is now JoyBoy, and he is still SuperModerator of this board.

[DABhand]

LOL i love the way you bolded still. Like your after his job or something :P

as in

"Damn that guy is still here"

lol :P

[GLH]

[Joe Forster/STA]

Hey DABHand,

Let me rephrase what I want to say and be extremely concrete.

In China, there are complete factories that burn warezed CD's. Do they ask kids to download warez? No, they manage it themselves. Do they ask people to crack stuff for them? Doesn't matter as cracked stuff is available on the Net. Do they have problems with copy protected stuff? Of course, not. Are they making EXTREME profit with this? Oh, hell they do!

Your neighbor has a few kids. He doesn't want them to break his game CD's. Does he download warez from the Net? No, he hasn't even heard the word "warez" (yet). Does he know about the copy protection? Well, not yet, but as soon as he asks around and tries to back up his game CD's, he definitely will. At the end, will he be able to backup his stuff? Oh, hell he won't, not even after lots of struggles. Will the game publisher help him with sending him another copy of the CD,after his kids did manage to break the original? Yeah, for about 1/4-1/2 the price of another original.

Copy protection hurts the honest customer, the very person that all companies are making software for. Copy protection does NOT hurt people who try to make money from warez. And circumventing the copy protection has been an intellectual challenge for some people, just like "climbing the Himalaya, only for the damn reason that IT IS THERE" - and this is completely independent of warezing and pirating stuff...

Joe

[DABhand]

Im afraid to say that you seem to be fixed on the pro-warez arguments there.


Who said warez isnt hurting people, offcourse it does, the less thats bought the less money goes back into developers, next time their games will be crap because no-one had the decency to buy it or some job cuts cause they cant keep up with all the salaries, then that in turn hurts people around them, etc etc.


Copy Protections wouldnt be so severe if everyone werent greedy gits, thats a fact.


I know about protections as ive been removing them since amiga times and BBS's on 9600 baud modems! I still remember the fun of rewriting track 40 and injecting a intro into track 80 and 81.

But people still bought their games in a majority then, maybe around 70-80%ish.

Now with the advent of cheap broadband, kids find out how do use torrents, how to use XDCC bots, how to use ftp's, how to use newsgroups. And what will they do? They download and never pay.

But what I hate is when people have to use excuses to make their stealing look legal. "I wasnt going to buy the game so im not hurting anyone by downloading it" and the all time favourite of the mass "Im not buying any games as they are ripping us off with high prices".

Ill be the first person to put their hand up and say I once did it, everyone at one point has, maybe not games or movies but the most blatant mp3's. But now I choose to buy games as ive seen how piracy affects others, a guy (I wont name him) had a small time software house, he worked hard on a game he was working on and was looking at a projected $250k sales, the game an RTS was only $5 he made $30kish he couldnt pay for other things as he had to borrow money from a bank to start his venture. His site had a live chat script, sorta like the old livesupport script from years back, although you couldnt see him you could feel his pain in his words, he was apologising to people for not being able to send out his game to them after they paid him and was asking them to be patient. That then is when I decided to go down the straight and narrow.


I must say you have a very very jaded view of the scene, and very pro-warez in a manner of speaking.


At the end of the day, im not gonna buy a new TV so ill steal yours, that would be exceptable yes? Or maybe grab your (for arguments sake) wedding video and mass-manufacturer it and sell it, you gonna be happy im making a mint out of it at your expense? No offcourse not.

anyways

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