Nocd Patches

[Luciel]

well in doom95 u could but only sideways and yes i do own a floppy at times its very usefull

And in the uk at least "game" have a policy of if u dont like the game (if u paid full price, not a reduced one) u can return it within 15 days wich its extremly stupid or u could always do wat i did with trackmania, yes it was good but not enough for wat i paid so i said it was buggy and it wouldnt run properly so they took it back, its not like there gonna install it and check is it? hope i dont get banned for this lol and for the record, i didnt make a backup lol

[Jedimaster Player]

I reckon for a protected Disk they should go at it like this:

You buy the Game from a retailer
You need a Serial but the package has no Serial or Activation thing except a Phone Number

You get home & you can not Install the Game, Until you Ring or Email the Company that made the Game (With your Proof of Purchase Receit) before they will give you a Serial Install Key.

So in otherwords you have to Register your Name with them for the Serial Key they gave you, & at the Same time the Disk has no Protection on it because it can not be installed without a Serial.

I guess they could make a CD Check on the Protection as it can still be easier to Backup with as its I believe our write to have a Backup of the Original.

Also I reckon if they keep going with all these Protections things that they should replace our Disks if they are Damaged through a lot of Playing with.

[caki]

Another revival. Looks like this board is being visited by Thread Paladins lately.

[Joe Forster/STA]

@Jedimaster Player: Wake up from your dream and learn much more about what crackers are capable of. E.g. Windows XP's activation - which is similar to what you described - was cracked within days or even hours... Also, activation is a bitch if you 1) have no Net access at home and 2) there are no distributors for the game in your country in which case you have to do an expensive foreign call! (Mind you, no, not all people live in the USA...)

[DABhand]

The only way to do it properly, is to either..

1. Distribute games with a unique code on each cd, which has to be activated via online or via phone call.

2. publishers to keep a note of all serials being used when games are shipped, and ask people to call or activate online, and cross reference the serial. If used more than once in a short time, they will know if one copy has been leaked.

[Jedimaster Player]

@Joe Forster/STA
Yes I can see where you are comming from, as this topic took me by surprise & its what I had 1st impressions of what they should do, but after you pointing that out with me its not as good as I 1st thought.

As they say there is always another way wether it's better or for worse, I reckon that Protections on Games will always be around...

Gotta think about what the guy thinks about his own Copy Protection when it comes to buying a Game with his own Protection Creation on it ? LoL

1. Does he get rid of his protection in the Game to play without it

or

2. Does he live with it & use the Original Disk all the time (I Bet Not)

or

3. Does he get the Game without the Protection on it ?

What do you think... What would you do in this sitsuation. Especially if you created the Protection for the Game you bought.

[glenbo]

sounds all good,but if i had to ring a phone number everytime i bought a game i just wouldnt bother anymore.

people dont like hassle.

hell i never even rang microsoft for my activation code,i just cracked it.(before i had the net)

[Jedimaster Player]

Yea ok But what if the Phone Call was free for the 1st Time only just to get your Code ?

[japajapa]

Originally Posted by Joe Forster/STA

@Jedimaster Player: Wake up from your dream and learn much more about what crackers are capable of. E.g. Windows XP's activation - which is similar to what you described - was cracked within days or even hours... Also, activation is a bitch if you 1) have no Net access at home and 2) there are no distributors for the game in your country in which case you have to do an expensive foreign call! (Mind you, no, not all people live in the USA...)

Any ideas on what would be a good system in your opinion then ?

Would an ideal system be that all games would be free of copy protection and developers and publishers would just rely on good human ethics so people wouldn't copy/download games instead of buying them ? And more importantly, do you think such a system would work in real life with the modern society ?

Didn't think so...

[Joe Forster/STA]

I was only saying that Jedimaster Player's idea, the phone/Net activation, was not only annoying to the user but also easier to crack than most copy protections. (Although some said on this forum that they'd rather activate their games via Steam than have this awful Starforce installed on their PC.)

As for my dream - now that you asked for it -, I believe in free (or very cheap) software, without goddamn publishers/resellers/distributors/shops taking away like 95% (there was an estimation about the percentage on this forum a few months ago) of the final price of games/applications/music CD's. (And, yeah, I am reading/watching too much Star Trek and other sci-fi all the time... )

[DUKE_NUKEM]

@ Muji.Fighter (is that your name? lol)

In my country it's not so easy to lend PC games, as anyone takes them only for ripping. There's no need to pay for a week lend when in few hours you can have isos on your hd, don't ya think?
Anyway, I really don't understand the matter of betas. If all works fine, one should ask himself "will it work good also in the retail version?"; otherwise the question will be "will they solve the problem in the full version?"
Lack of respect for gamers is a matter of fact, especially for laptop owners (anyone remembers the res problem of SH4? Why a game should check my hardware if it isn't able to do it properly? The game said I had a 112 Mb Video Card....never seen one before lol), so I don't want to spend more words about it.
There was a time for few games, good games, with packages which made you remain on the seat staring at the case, not at the game. It was amazing to "smell the circuit" from Gran Turismo 2 GT Mode Disc.
Today, with little money you can almost replicate the packaging of everything you want, you have to be feared of protections that could kill your hardware, and, after all, games are no more so special. Take e.g. F.E.A.R. (tried the demo): exceptional concept, ordinary game.
Wasted too many words today, it's time to relaz