low down on backing up xbox games

[orangerhino]

set me straight, been trying to backup xbox games same as ps2 with pioneer 104, but keeps saying read error. now that im reading more and more about this, am i correct in assuming that you must backup the game first onto the hardrive of the xbox as an iso file and then copy iso file to dvdr disc. if so, how do u tranfer iso file from xbox to computer to be able to write the file with your dvdr writer.

has anyone been able to backup an xbox original game with their stand alone pc with nero or primo? i cant get either one to read it correctly.

thanks for the posts in advance