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danespen 09-08-2008 15:40

Battlefield 2142 1.5 No-DVD?
 
Is there anyone out there willing to make that? I'm stuck with 1.25, as the 1.4 doesn't work.

Would have posted in one of the other threads but they ether were closed or had a slightly different topic.

DABhand 09-08-2008 15:52

There is none, and no image will work either for online play.

Unfortunately for the meantime you are stuck with your original to play/play online with 1.5

danespen 10-08-2008 15:06

Thank you for replying.

Gloric 14-08-2008 17:51

What's the deal if the original copy you have doesn't work either? Can't seem to find anything official, but I keep getting that "unable to authenticate original disk within the time limit" rubbish despite actually having a brand new copy.

It worked for one night, I restarted the PC then it decided not to work.... actually I might not have even restarted the PC at all.

nando2002 14-08-2008 18:25

Is your DVD drive old?
maybe is something installed on your computer that reduces the drive speed and you get that error - something you may installed and after you reboot the PC start running.
Check what's starting in your PC with "msconfig.exe" (type it on the start menu > run and see the services tab)
Also, try to play the game on other computer and see is the error happens.
As a final solution, try to re-install windows, install the game, play, reboot, play again and see if it's ok.

Gloric 14-08-2008 20:11

The thing is, I was playing it for 10 hours straight yesterday, after installing. There were no issues, I haven't rebooted the PC since or installed anything, but that error now occurs.

DABhand 15-08-2008 01:47

Publishers not got any help for you? Im sure if you explain to them they might come up with a solution.

But the CD/DVD-rom you have may indeed have problems reading the disc well enough unfortunately.

If you know a friend who has an external caddy with a drive via USB you could always try with it on your machine, if it doesnt work there is a possibility your system may be not stable and there is memory leaks.

Psipherious 16-08-2008 06:38

Got my BF2142 1.50 to work without CD in Drive, running off a maxi (full) DVD-image.

Quite simply, all I did was use Alcohol 120 to create the image in it's mds format. I used the image creation wizard and simply selected SecuROM which automatically sets DPM to High (you'll see when you're in the wizard window). I did not check the option to skip errors (and I didn't get any errors during the image creation process).

After the image was created, closed Alcohol - did *not* use Alcohol's image emulation, I just disabled it.

I got the very latest version of Daemon Tools v4 and installed that. Then I downloaded another addon to Daemon Tools called Y.A.S.U. Also available on D-Tools website in the addons section. v1.4.7080.

Mounted my mds image with D-Tools, enabled SecuROM emulation.

Ran Y.A.S.U. and cloaked my drives, I just left the default SafeDisk 4.x and SecuROM 7.x cloaking checked off (and hit the Cloak button).

Minimize Y.A.S.U. (you have to leave it running).

Execute game, and voila, she works. Doesn't come back with the stupid error that you can't run the game from a backup copy of the disc or any crap like that, it just works.

The Y.A.S.U. cloaker was the missing component for me, I tried all sorts of other ways to get this to work with Alcohol emulator, with D-Tools alone, it kept giving me errors on starting up 2142 that I couldn't use a backup copy of the DVD. After installing Y.A.S.U. and cloaking my drives and doing nothing else different, Battlefield ran without an issue.

Good Luck!

Blazkowicz 16-08-2008 08:04

You don't install YASU, you just start it.
You also don't need SecuROM emulation unless you are using a RMPS copy and then you won't need YASU.

Psipherious 16-08-2008 14:07

Hey I'm just tryin' to make a simple post about what I did to get it to work since people are asking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Install...uter_programs): "Some software is designed to be installed simply by copying their files to the desired location ..."

Since you have to download Y.A.S.U., extract (unpack) it form the zip file that it comes downloaded it and then move it to your D-Tools folder. You are doing exactly what the dictionary and encyclopedia consider "installing". So yes, you do "install" it based on the English definition of the word install.


As for not needing SecuROM emulation enabled in Daemon Tools, you are correct. I just tried it with all emulation options off and it works this way as well.

TippeX 16-08-2008 14:39

@Psipherious...

being flippant just threw this thread off topic... knock it off

install usually means/implies running a setup.exe / install.exe / whatever.exe, which makes entries in the add/remove component in control panel... thus, this is where installed programs go to....

what you did was unrar'ed a 'plugin' into an existing folder (where you installed daemon tools), and then ran it... there was NO installation, at best, there was file creation...

blazi was correct, regardless of how many links you made (note how you linked to NON technical dictionaries...).. next time, i will install an infraction on your user account.. got it?.. now lets get back on topic...

Quazimojo 17-08-2008 00:16

i got 2142 working last night using blindwrite and just mounting the image in daemon tools and its working perfect so people may want to try that option as well and this is an image i made of my original , i did this like a year and half ago and used alchohol120 at the time and it worked but thought maybe they implemented new CP in it so i did some searching and came across blindwrite and i dont have to use yasu no disable anything or enable emulation go figure . i hate keeping discs in my laptop cause they get destroyed somehow or someway and im glad this worked . now if only i could find a way to get my alone in dark to work without having to spend 50 bucks on DTpro .

Psipherious 17-08-2008 03:54

Blindwrite image from above user Quazimojo confirmed working.

It seems Y.A.S.U is indeed not required. Shorty after reading the above post I downloaded Blindwrite 6 and created myself a maxi image (using blindwrite 6 native image format) using it as well.

I tried to mount it immediately after and after turning off Y.A.S.U. and I received the error Emulation Software Detected with both the Blindwrite (using blindwrite 6 native image format). Then I tried enabling Y.A.S.U. again and remounting my previous image and was still getting the emulation software detected error.

At this point I used the 'uninstall driver' command from Blindwrite and then I completely uninstalled Blindwrite from my computer, restarted my system and immediately after startup tried mounting the blindwrite image without Y.A.S.U. and it worked!

Well after that working I unmounted it and remounted the Alcohol image again and it also worked! Without Y.A.S.U for some reason this time. I'm not sure what changed upon reboot other than installing and uninstalling Blindwrite. Also I suppose disabling Alcohol 120's emulation would have come into effect after reboot as well (I don't reboot often) but it's working now with just the straight image in both formats.

So if you're still having trouble getting 2142 to run from a full dvd image, give some of the above options a try, reboot your system, try an alcohol 120 image, try a blindwrite 6 image and lastly you can try Y.A.S.U. - one of these or a combination of them I believe will likely work fine for most people.

EDIT: I went to sleep, got up and tried to execute 2142 again using the Alcohol image and I started to recieve the error: can not run from a backup copy, again, so I switched to the blindwrite image again and it still works fine without Y.A.S.U. using soley D-Tools with no emulation options on and a B6T (blindwrite 6) image. The only things I'm aware of that have changed since I ran it successfully yesterday with both images and no Y.A.S.U is that I now have Firefox and my instant messenger running, nothing else, I haven't changed any services, added or removed any virtual drives, nothing that I can see that would cause it to display the backup error again. All I can tell you is that the blindwrite one still works just fine so I'm going to delete the Alcohol one since the B6T clearly seems to work better.

Thanks for the info Quazimojo.

Good luck with this to all!

Gloric 17-08-2008 19:25

I've tried many number of things, many of the above all failing.

But just like you had "nothing change" overnight, the same thing happened to me last night again.
I just randomly went to start 2142 to show a friend what happens, and it god damn starts, and I played again for several hours. I turned it off twice and started it again, no issues.

I go to sleep, wake up today, try to run it again, haven't done ANYTHING at all, PC is in the same state as last night and PC has been on the entire time. Same god damn error.

Some random crap from this protection rubbish. The people who really want to rip them off for money will do it, whether we buy copies or not, now they're just fucking over legitimate buyers. Pathetic.:confused::confused::confused::confused:: confused::confused::confused:

caki 17-08-2008 20:37

One must wonder, if there was an individual skilled enough to patch the Safedisc CD Check, could they code a loader and thereby fool the punkbuster protection's integrity checks? All you would have to do it undo changes made to the exe by the loader before punkbuster even starts checking (before the OEP...). Something interesting to try out I guess.

TippeX 17-08-2008 20:50

oh, im sure such a person (or persons) exists, well and you don't need to undo the punkbuster check, just rename the exe as its running and copy in the virgin would do the trick :)... you get the idea anyway, though it'd be a lot of effort for just one game (unless its generic of course)... and you'll get lots of whiney gits demanding (!) an update as/when the next update for the game comes along... so, as one individual who could do it, i simply wouldn't because 99.9% of the people who would use it would be thankless bastards... and anyone knowing such tricks should really keep them to a small bunch of people who appreciate the time/research involved and not just give it out to the thankless masses

just my 2c though... :)

caki 17-08-2008 21:04

Of course there are always 2 sides to a coin. Might as well they use the maxi image then, much simpler than someone breaking his neck to make something like a punkbuster proof nocd patch...

DABhand 18-08-2008 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gloric (Post 360389)
I've tried many number of things, many of the above all failing.

But just like you had "nothing change" overnight, the same thing happened to me last night again.
I just randomly went to start 2142 to show a friend what happens, and it god damn starts, and I played again for several hours. I turned it off twice and started it again, no issues.

I go to sleep, wake up today, try to run it again, haven't done ANYTHING at all, PC is in the same state as last night and PC has been on the entire time. Same god damn error.

Some random crap from this protection rubbish. The people who really want to rip them off for money will do it, whether we buy copies or not, now they're just fucking over legitimate buyers. Pathetic.:confused::confused::confused::confused:: confused::confused::confused:

No use swearing and complaining on these forums, do that on theirs. And its the peeps who steal the games (have been for years) thats the cause of these over the top protections.

But you also have to remember, once you ran the game its data was then resident in the memory including the protection scheme, when you quit the game, perhaps the Protection scheme was still sitting in the memory and causing the game to fail to load.

This can be because of a software fault either on your end or their end, or even hardware fault like bad RAM.

TippeX 18-08-2008 02:29

can also be a bad image, missing data, safedisc checks like securom, their checks vary in ranges depending on date/time etc.. so a tetchy image may work on 1 day, then not on the next, then 2 days after that and so on... thats what you get for using mini/maxi images... the protection can on occasions check different areas (or even the content / crc of those areas), and on a mini/maxi image the data for those areas may not be correct...

a prime example (albeit, its an old game, but i have fond memories of playing with its check, along with a few other people).. was worms world party.. where, upon connecting to the server a challenge / response style communication was made.. the server asked for the checksum / data from a specific sector (on day #1 it was sector 0x17171717 .. which didn't exist.. but it was a nice tag <team 17 ;p>, then on day #2 they changed it to another sector, varying it as/when they wanted.. so if you had a warez copy you were screwed for playing online)... similar 'tricks' are still in use these days, but not many people notice them...

Gloric 26-10-2008 03:22

Just thought i'd update this old thread.

I fixed my problem, I reinstalled (the exact same version, most recent) of Daemon Tools (obviously what was conflicting) and it didn't give me the issue again.

Lest I remind, nothing to do with a pirate copy or anything, completely original disk.

green7izard 26-12-2008 10:46

d*** it
 
I tried to make a copy with blindwrite but i doesnt do a thing, blindwrite keeps saying that the dvd-rom is incomplete :confused: what can i do? can anyone help me?

Sm1th 25-11-2009 09:58

Very, very stumped...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quazimojo (Post 360376)
i got 2142 working last night using blindwrite and just mounting the image in daemon tools and its working perfect so people may want to try that option as well and this is an image i made of my original , i did this like a year and half ago and used alchohol120 at the time and it worked but thought maybe they implemented new CP in it so i did some searching and came across blindwrite and i dont have to use yasu no disable anything or enable emulation go figure . i hate keeping discs in my laptop cause they get destroyed somehow or someway and im glad this worked . now if only i could find a way to get my alone in dark to work without having to spend 50 bucks on DTpro .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psipherious (Post 360377)
Blindwrite image from above user Quazimojo confirmed working.

EDIT: ...I switched to the blindwrite image again and it still works fine without Y.A.S.U. using soley D-Tools with no emulation options on and a B6T (blindwrite 6) image. [...] All I can tell you is that the blindwrite one still works just fine so I'm going to delete the Alcohol one since the B6T clearly seems to work better...

Even though this is a very old thread, I'm desperate to get this working if anyone can help. For information sake: I have an original BF2142 DVD.

I'm guessing the following programs are being used:
  • Blindwrite 6 - to create the "BF2142.B6T" DVD image from a genuine DVD
  • D-Tools Lite - to get the game to run off of the image

To Quazimojo and Psipherious: Please let us know how you guys got Blindwrite to read the image??? Were you using a certain DVD drive, a certain version of Blindwrite, a certain OS, etc? It's totally awesome you both got this to work in such a simple way! But the rest of us are kind of left in the dark here.

Just as the last post from green7izard, I keep having the error from Blindwrite, "DVD-ROM, incomplete" which grays out the "Read" button. What's up with that? I've even tried using different DVD burners (Sony, Plextor), and even tried using my MacBook in Windows XP and I get the same problem. Please Help!
http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/u...1th/2142bw.png

Sm1th 30-11-2009 08:21

Even Simpler...
 
:D I got it to work. For some reason I was under the impression that I HAD to use Blindwrite to create the image. Not so! Here is what I did:
  • Downloaded and installed the newest version of Daemon Tools Lite found here
  • Created an image of my original BF2142 DVD using Daemon Tools Lite as seen here
  • Mounted the image as seen here
  • Launched the game, and it worked!
For the sake of useful info: I have a Sony Optiarc DVD burner. I hope this helps someone.

DABhand 30-11-2009 16:43

Hmmm smells of spam to me :P

TippeX 30-11-2009 22:24

agreed, the daemon tools links are ok i guess but the one to buy the sony optiarc burner is NOT needed at all and has since been edited

Blazkowicz 01-12-2009 03:24

Also help site is the one from Lite which can't create this working image.

Joe Forster/STA 01-12-2009 06:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazkowicz (Post 380201)
Also help site is the one from Lite which can't create this working image.

It really can't? You mean, it does have that imaging function but it doesn't make working images, right? (Never used it anyway...)

Blazkowicz 01-12-2009 07:06

It can create images, but not for protections (you can't select profiles).


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