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YoshimitsU 31-10-2007 08:14

Hellgate: London
 
the link to the mini-image from Bender doesn't work!
the filename is missing at every mirror (example: "...gamecopyworld.com/?d=2007%f=")

armacham 03-11-2007 01:52

The vitality fixed exe on GCW worked great for me, but the game kept crashing once I got to a certain outdoor area, about 2-3 hours into the game, whether using fixed exe or dvd. I read on different forums that the game has its fair share of bugs and crashing, so I downloaded the patch in hopes that the mini image would work.

The netshow mini image is wierd, it shows a 7 gig mdf file and wont extract all the way, so I tried the Bender german mini image with YASU 1.4 and DT 4.1. No luck, "emulation conflict."

I never did try the mini image with the unpatched game since I MUCH prefer fixed exe, so I'm going to reinstall and go that route to see if I can get it to work at all. I dont expect it will, unless I'm doing it all wrong or Flagship added some more copy protection with the patch that can thwart the latest YASU.

Anyone get the mini image to work with the patch?

SageFrancis 03-11-2007 07:36

No luck
 
I'm trying as well, but no luck so far. I tried # Hellgate: London [GERMAN] No-DVD/Fixed Image and Hellgate: London [MULTI8] No-DVD/Fixed Image on DT 4.06 and YASU 3.1. I can't load any of those images :(

TippeX 03-11-2007 08:18

hmm, can't load = you get an 'emulation detected' message, or a crash.. or what?
more info helps

SageFrancis 03-11-2007 08:43

.
 
"emulation conflict".

TippeX 03-11-2007 09:20

use your original for now then, or the virtual ide in daemon tools pro advanced
until a crack appears....

SageFrancis 03-11-2007 09:31

I guess Ill wait for some working mini image.

TippeX 03-11-2007 10:03

er,. you're missing the point
the bender image etc apparently is ok when used on the daemon tool virtual ide drive...
but not on the 'normal' scsi one, so its not a mini image issue....

reference : http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/show...light=hellgate

other people claim downgrading your daemon tools to 4.06 (i really cant see the point in this though) also works....

other quote on the forum

Quote:


Tried both vIDE and vSCSI, with and without YASU. Always conflict with disc emulator.

Using DT 4.06 & YASU the game runs, so the image is good.

bclkostra 03-11-2007 10:53

I found way how play patched Hellgate: London:
1) In folder C:\Hellgate London\Data\ found files "sp_hellgate_localized000.idx" and "sp_hellgate000.idx".
2) Files "sp_hellgate000.idx" and "sp_hellgate_localized000.idx" rename or copy to other folder. (Files mustn't be in Hellgate London\Data folder)
3) Copy crack from old version to folder C:\Hellgate London\SP_x86.
4) Enjoy!

SageFrancis 03-11-2007 11:12

works
 
It works for me as well, all I did is:

Mounted # Hellgate: London [MULTI8] No-DVD/Fixed in DT 4.06 HE + YASU v1.4.

Think it had something to do with the ammount of virtual drives I had :P

armacham 03-11-2007 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by TippeX (Post 348787)
er,. you're missing the point
the bender image etc apparently is ok when used on the daemon tool virtual ide drive...
but not on the 'normal' scsi one, so its not a mini image issue....

reference : http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/show...light=hellgate

other people claim downgrading your daemon tools to 4.06 (i really cant see the point in this though) also works....

other quote on the forum

Thankyou, vIDe or vSCSI in DT4.1 pro, YASU or no, mine was not working.

BUT (as illogical as it sounds) downgrading to DT4.06 and using YASU worked fine, maybe YASU doesnt cloak your drives quite right when using DT4.1 or something.

I'm using Benders German mini image, I cant get the Netshow multi8 image to extract all the way.

derek7777 03-11-2007 17:40

hgl release a patch 0 , and the crack by vitality and fairlight does not work anymore , any solution?

Stat 03-11-2007 19:56

Hi, after updating HGL with patch 0, I have tried the following:

YASU 1.4 + DTPro Advanced (IDE mode, all emulation options on) + netshow mini image
= Conflict with emulation detected

YASU 1.4 + DTPro Advanced (IDE mode, all emulation options off) + netshow mini image
= Conflict with emulation detected

YASU 1.4 + DTPro Advanced (SCSI mode, all emulation options on) + netshow mini image
= Conflict with emulation detected

YASU 1.4 + DTPro Advanced (SCSI mode, all emulation options off) + netshow mini image
= Conflict with emulation detected

YASU 1.4 + DTPro Advanced (IDE mode, all emulation options on) + bender mini image
= Conflict with emulation detected

YASU 1.4 + DTPro Advanced (IDE mode, all emulation options off) + bender mini image
= Conflict with emulation detected

YASU 1.4 + DTPro Advanced (SCSI mode, all emulation options on) + bender mini image
= Conflict with emulation detected

YASU 1.4 + DTPro Advanced (SCSI mode, all emulation options off) + bender mini image
= Conflict with emulation detected

No YASU + DTPro Advanced in either mode, with or without emulation + either image
= Wrong disc inserted.

In short, I think I've tried every possible combination of YASU 1.4 & DTPro Adv 4.10.0218 pairings, in IDE and SCSI modes, with and without emulation, and with all mini images currently available, and the end result for me is that HGL with the patch 0 update won't pass the security checks regardless of settings.

Hope this helps.

Stat

bclkostra 04-11-2007 01:23

When you have installed patch look up for my post with number 9 in this topic, its working.

derek7777 04-11-2007 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by bclkostra (Post 348849)
When you have installed patch look up for my post with number 9 in this topic, its working.

no side effect ?

bclkostra 04-11-2007 01:57

I play with this edit and game running normally, but with patch (better fps, less lags, memory tweak etc.) I don't get any error. And when they release new crack on this patched version. I return files to \Data\ folder, copy crack and play along :). Its possible can missing gossip common NPC. But I dont know... I don't test common NPC gossip. But quest NPC are working normally.

Zulu 04-11-2007 02:43

For those (edit: using DT 4.06 and still) getting the 'emulation detected' message without a 4/5 digit SecuROM error code:

- remove/disable any virtual drive
- open HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices and delete all values (they'll be automatically regenerated after reboot)
- uninstall SPTD
- Reboot
- (re)install SPTD
- Reboot
- create virtual drive in recommended DT version 4.06 and try again

! If you've changed any drive letters in Windows drive management deleting those reg values will undo those changes. In this case you may have to correct some Start menu entries and desktop links.

ozena 04-11-2007 04:05

hmm...so using a simple crack is out of the question to some of you?
I need no emulation or mini image for mine. but whatever.

armacham 04-11-2007 05:18

Fortunately I havent needed to make any modifications to my install files or registry.
I disabled all virtual drives except the one vSCSI drive made with Daemon Tools 4.06, and turn on YASU. Easy to do, should work with any future patches.
Ive tried several things that resulted in emulation detection, but didnt have to reinstall or do anything else to fix this besides use an older version of Daemon Tools.

chuckles9999 04-11-2007 06:28

No Sound
 
I've tried two cracks by Vitality and Fairlight. Both allow me to play the game but without sound. Each time the game starts, just before the menu appears, I get a lot of loud noise and then nothing. I'm playing on an Intel-XP SP2 system with 2 Gb RAM.

BarryB 04-11-2007 07:11

Does the original game work OK without using any crack?

armacham 04-11-2007 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB (Post 348916)
Does the original game work OK without using any crack?

HGL has plenty of problems all by itself in single and multiplayer, for me and many other people it seems. Fixed exe or image hasnt made this any worse or better for me.

One very strange thing that happened to me: any time I went to Covent Garden Market, an outdoor area in the game, PeerGuardian would get exception errors, taskmanager wouldnt open, basically forcing me to restart. I turned PeerGaurdian off, went through the Covent Garden Market area no problems and get to a new area. I then exited out of HGL and turned PeerGuardian back on and have played the game in several places since then no issues. My guess is that HGL's ingame ads were trying to be updated whenever I entered into this area and were blocked by Peerguadian, and then HGL did something to make Peerguardian crash. It sounds very far fetched to me but I'm at a loss really.

I recommend waiting a month or two on this game until it is hopefully all worked out, but at the same time its pretty fun if you can deal with the BS involved.

NeHoMaR 04-11-2007 17:49

The new updated version is 1.40.25.4015, previously version was 1.10.180.3416 (the version of the cracks available)

I will be waiting for a new crack. BTW, I know there are already a trainer for 1.40.25.4015 not still available in GameCopyWorld.

TippeX 04-11-2007 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB
Does the original game work OK without using any crack?

Quote:

Originally Posted by armacham (Post 348962)
HGL has plenty of problems all by itself in single and multiplayer, for me and many other people it seems. Fixed exe or image hasnt made this any worse or better for me.

barryb's question still stands.. answer it please

armacham 05-11-2007 01:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by TippeX (Post 348978)
barryb's question still stands.. answer it please

I did. Using mini image or fixed exe has no effect on the stability (or instability) of HGL. Read what you quoted. This is my experience only, and I am no expert, I am here sharing what I can to give and receive help. Why are you demanding answers for a general question which wasnt directed at anyone specifically, and definitely not at me. I am going to assume you simply misunderstood what you were reading, and not that you are trying to accuse me of something.

nando2002 05-11-2007 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by armacham (Post 348984)
Using mini image or fixed exe has no effect on the stability (or instability) of HGL.

What about using the original DVD?
Do you have the original game?
You talk on mini-images and cracks, looks like you don't own the game.

TippeX 05-11-2007 01:37

barryb asked if the game has issues when using the original disk and original exe..

infact.. YOU (armacham) were not even asked at all....

BarryB's question was directed to chuckles9999, so unless you're him why did you answer (and quote barry's question)... ? he didnt ask about a mini image or a fixed exe...

and i suggest you change your attitude... and you also read more carefully...

of course if you thought barryb's question was directed at you, then you (unsuccessfully) evaded answering it by talking about cracks and mini images...

armacham 05-11-2007 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by TippeX (Post 348990)
barryb asked if the game has issues when using the original disk and original exe..

infact.. YOU (armacham) were not even asked at all....

BarryB's question was directed to chuckles9999, so unless you're him why did you answer (and quote barry's question)... ? he didnt ask about a mini image or a fixed exe...

and i suggest you change your attitude... and you also read more carefully...

of course if you thought barryb's question was directed at you, then you (unsuccessfully) evaded answering it by talking about cracks and mini images...

Like I said, read what I posted, you too nando2002.

The question was if the game worked ok without a crack, like the vitality fixed exe on GCW that I mentioned in my first post. I said that the game crashes and has other issues whether you are using one or not. I couldnt say that if I hadnt played the game with the orignal dvd now could I? If anyone has the wrong attitude it is you. I am not evading anyones question, if I was I wouldnt try to help out by answering it now would I? You really were accusing me of breaking forum rules I guess. This has gone plenty off topic, if you have a problem pm a moderator or something.

nando2002 05-11-2007 03:09

Tippex is a moderator.
Don't get mad Armachan. I apologies. We are not here to find you guilty of something (this is not a court).

armacham 05-11-2007 03:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by nando2002 (Post 348995)
Tippex is a moderator.
Don't get mad Armachan. I apologies. We are not here to find you guilty of something (this is not a court).

No need to apologize, I'm only making my situation clear.

nando2002 05-11-2007 03:26

Well... this game wasn't made initially for single-player that's why PeerGuardian complains and the game crashes.
I rest my case here since I don't have the game neither my friends to test it and ain't going to get it from some suspicious source.

Sorry, just try to help.

DABhand 05-11-2007 03:56

Awww TippeX, dont worry the 1st day on the job is always the hardest :P

BarryB 05-11-2007 05:02

Chuckles9999 hasn't answered my question so armacham did!

I think armachams answer was a little ambiguous, but read to mean that using a Fixed exe/mini image is no better than using the original exe, game still has bugs!

@DABhand: You know what they say about sarcasm!! :)

rakember 05-11-2007 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB (Post 349011)
Chuckles9999 hasn't answered my question so armacham did!

I think armachams answer was a little ambiguous, but read to mean that using a Fixed exe/mini image is no better than using the original exe, game still has bugs!

@DABhand: You know what they say about sarcasm!! :)

and we gotta get used to it, since there wont be any other free patch, only the subscribers get the next patch for 10 bucks/month...
im tellin you thats a fuckin bitch move by namco

i have 7 days to play through the game, then im gonna get back my money, they dont deserve shit... gotta love 1 week payback warranty


Quote:

Originally Posted by nando2002 (Post 348999)
I rest my case here since I don't have the game neither my friends to test it and ain't going to get it from some suspicious source.

Sorry, just try to help.

mate, thats just ridiculous, then why are you here accusing peeps they dont have the game? you're tryna act like a mod or what?

"Sorry, just try to help"
na we call that help here "trolling"

nando2002 05-11-2007 08:47

@rakember - I think you not understand: help people with a problem has nothing to do with owning the game. many times problems are solved easily, but other times is not. I don't accuse people. Making a question is not pointing fingers. many people comes here with problems related to warez world.

Joe Forster/STA 05-11-2007 13:00

@rakember: I cracked many games in the past - only simple copy protections! ;) - for people who had the game while I didn't (not interested). And, yeah, most people come here to get or give help so don't get mad this easily... ;)

BarryB 05-11-2007 20:00

rakember banned Forum Rule #7, you asked for it!

Romano.Cule 07-11-2007 07:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by bclkostra (Post 348854)
I play with this edit and game running normally, but with patch (better fps, less lags, memory tweak etc.) I don't get any error. And when they release new crack on this patched version. I return files to \Data\ folder, copy crack and play along :). Its possible can missing gossip common NPC. But I dont know... I don't test common NPC gossip. But quest NPC are working normally.


I can confirm that this method is same like u are using HGL without patch.

HellasVagabond 07-11-2007 10:06

Well the game runs fine without any cracks if you have it original. However im tired placing the dvd in all the time but i cant find a fixed exe x64 for the game. Only x86 fixed exes !

kosmiq 07-11-2007 11:21

Isn't the X64 unprotected? Or does it still perform CD-Checks?


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