Toca Race driver 3 won't work with images
 

Hi. I bought Toca Race driver 3 today.
(it's out here :D..)

I always make a backup image so the disks don't get scratched or dirty fingers on them.(well..besides those one or two i put on it).
But the game won't start.. it says it can't find the original disk.

could you guys help me out?

after a bit of searching i noticed that there is an illegal release as well..but detaching the IDE cables is not something i wanna do everyday and i kinda think it's a bit harsh.

pls..help me out.

Since the current DVD burners can not burn DVDs in RAW mode, you can not make a 1:1 copy of anything protected With Starforce, Safedisc, Securom, etc. So you have to resort to virtual drives.

As far as I know, there is only one virtual drive NOT blacklisted by the Starforce version used on Toca 3 (v3.7.13), i.e. Daemon Tools 4.03 (although the SF website claims something else).

The only problem left is getting around the general SCSI drive blacklisting. For Safedisc and Securom, you can use free anti-blacklisting tools like CureROM, but Starforce thought it was needed to infiltrare a little deeper in your computer. Versions until 3.4 can be easily circumvented by using Starforce Nightmare, but since v3.5, SF has improved this blacklist by digging even deeper into your OS and hooking several system drivers functions (in v3.7 also your usb drivers), probably causing even more incompatibilities, especially with future Windows versions or other system upgrades.

So how to get around all this crap ? That seems to be hardware dependent: for some system configurations, you do not have to disconnect anything. These are the solutions you should try first (only 1 at a time, of course):
- use Starforce Nightmare to hide the optical drives
- disable your optical drives in the Windows hardware manager
- disable your optical drives in the BIOS

If none of these work, you will have to physically unplug them.

Edit: You can find more info about this on the Daemon Tools forum, nicely explained by NetSoerfer:
http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/t757...-tools-v4.html

Well there a two ways to get around Starforce, some like SCCT need the backup(DVD+-RW) to be run from a DVD-ROM/RW drive in a USB 2 caddie.

Others like King Kong, POP T2T and recently TOCA Race driver 3, can be run in a DVD-ROM/RW drive connected via IDE and again on a DVD+-RW.
Nothing else required, no need to disconnect anything, no need to run anything either, but you will need an Nforce 4 mobo.

I have an nforce 4 mobo.. but still it won't work with an image >_<..
Disabling the drives doesn't seem to work either :(

I never said an image, I said burned to a DVD/RW.
I also said no drives need to be disabled/unplugged as well.

What's the big deal with using images anyway? If it can be backed up to a disk, then your still not using the original.

True..but it would still find the mounting software(Daemon tools) and wil not run the game. not even using anti blacklist software

I'm not using Daemon tools, I'm not using any anti-blacklisting software or anything to hide drives, nothing but the game.

Just pop the disk in the drive and it works.
It must be an RW and if it doesn't work in the drive connected via IDE, then a drive mounted in a USB2 caddie, either way still no hiding or disconnecting.

alright..will try it tonight.. it's a RW..so it wouldn't hurt :D
thx for the help so far

Method using Alcohol, you may need to change speeds depending on your system hardware.

Creating an image.
Click the 'Image Making Wizard' button.
Click in the 'Data Position Measurement' box and select 'High', Next.
Choose your destination and image name then click 'Start', choose 'Maximum' for measuring speed(you may need to select a much lower speed depending on hardware) then 'OK'.

Burning image.
Click the 'Image Burning Wizard' button.
Browse to where the image is, click next.
Now click in the 'Burn "RMPS" to recordable Media' box and select max speed for writing (again you may need to slow it down depending on hardware) then click 'Start'.

I have burned 8X DVD+RW (Ricoh) at 8X and the disk worked.

My system Specs
Nforce 4 mobo
Pioneer 110 connected to IDE
Pioneer 106 connected via USB 2 caddie
Maxtor SATA II HDD
Intel Pentium 840 D
2GB 667 DDRII

I tried burning it as you specified and it doesn't even try looking for a disk in my drivebays >_<.. he immediatly gives me the error: when i mount an image and try opening it then.. he checks the disk for about 3 seconds and then gives that same error >_<

sys specs:

Nforce 4 mobo : msi K8n neo-F 4
BENQ DVD DW1640
bunch of Sata hdd's
AMD athlon XP64 3700+ San Diego
1 gig 400Mhz DDR

Helo guys!

I have bypass the starforce 3.7 used in toca 3.This is how to do it:

-install virtual drive pro 10
-install dt 4.03 (the latest)

-start vcd manager (right click on the vd pro icon in the right bottom of the screen and click on "vcd manager"
-under tools click on disable IDE CD-rom
-load image with dt 4.03
-play!!

O,dont ask me for my pc spec,i dont know them,i can just say its not nforce mb,and that i have P4 1,7

I tried the same earlier, didn't work for me. I get this message, please insert disc in the right drive blabla

:confused:

thx :D..this seems to work just fine for me.. just the re activation of the drives make my pc hang..but i'm able to live with this for the moment >_<

I tried everything... Disabling the drives through SFN, through VDP, through the BIOS, the damn SF thingy detects my IDE drives as long as they take power. The solution was to unplug them completely, that's the only thing that worked. My MoBo has an Intel chipset, so I guess that all Intel users will have to wait for a crack or unplug their drives... Grrrr!

lol :) Will that ever happen ? I assume It won't...but in fact I can't see the future, damnit :P

Toca 3
 

SF NIGHTMARE will do the trick, works fine for me

Hi there !

I bypassed Starforce as mentionned above : using VirtualDrive, tick "Disable IDE CD-ROM" in "Tools", mount with Daemon Tools 4.03HE and just run the game.

BUT, I get a problem when loading a race. Some are working (Professional mode or something like that), but the "Around The World" mode puts me an Austrian circuit on loading screen and then just crashes, back to Windows.

Any idea ?

Thanks in advance ;)

It seem that if you only have one h.d and nforce4 the game works ok. The problem seems to be for other nforce users is the raid controller.

Starforce can tell if there's anything on the end of it. No raid, no problem. It works for me fine without unplugging, just disabling pata controller in device manager is all that's required.


Athlon 3800+
Gigabyte ga-k8nxp-sli
160g hitachi sata-2 (jbod)
1 gig corsair xms3200

I just got this game today. I have an image of the game (MDF) and mounted it to Daemon Tools 4.00HE, installed the game (full install). From there I just clicked on the shortcut, it said something about installing copy protection (I imagine that it installed some rootkit) then I rebooted. Then since the image was still mounted in Daemon Tools I just played and it worked.

I just have an AMD Athlon 3000+ socket A (not 64bit) with 1Gb RAM, 128Mb 6600GT AGP, 1 × 36Gb Raptor on SATA1, 1 × 250Gb on SATA2, 1 × 120Gb on IDE1, 1 × DVDRW on IDE2, etc.

Another info : my Toca 3 works with the last beta NVidia driver (84.12 I believe), but it doesn't with the last official driver (81.92 I believe).

PS : has anyone experienced problems with this game when trying to launch the "World Tour" mode ?

hi!! i need help.... Yesterday i was triyng to play -Toca 3, i disable IDE CD-rom and after all, it didn´t work for me. Someone who knows, told me that with windows xp and Service pack 2 won´t work, so i will wait for a crack.

The problem for me is that now i can´t Enable de IDE CD-Rom, does anybody know how to do it? thanx a lot

Windows XP and SP2 shouldn't be a problem; read the FAQ on some more tricks. As for re-enabling your CD-ROM drive, use the same software with which you disabled it.

Sometimes you have to restart tour computer to get back your drives

Using Daemon Tools and Mounting Images
 

You mentioned that you just got the game and installed using 4.00 HE. I just got the game also and have it installed. Must I uninstall it first, then reinstall from the .mdf file that is created using 4.00 HE?

Many thanks

@jasdelta
You've confused me? Please tell me, how did you create a MDF using Daemon Tools? :eek: :D

If you have it installed then mount your MDF in Daemon to play!
Read the FAQ to find out how to mount images.

Well I am new at all this, so bare with me. I bought TRD3 and installed it, then began research on how I could play it without having to put the DVD in my drive all the time. Then I downloaded DT, VD Pro and AL120% to see how they would work. I made an image with both VD and AL120% and still have the orginal install of TRD3

If I'm understanding your right, I should just be able to mount the original mdf and play using DT is that correct?

Many thanks for the help...

This, normally, wouldnt work ;)
As mentioned multiple times in here, you have to disable your internal, phyiscally available IDE drives by unplugging the power cable.
Otherwise you need a huge amount of luck to achieve this :)

Hmm, I thought I had read that using VD Pro and selecting diable IDE drives then mounting an image would work, not true?

My confusion is whether I need to completly uninstall my original install and then reinstall using an image file, then mount using DT.

Fixed MDS-File ok?
 

Did anybody test the Race Driver 3 FIXED MDS IMAGE FILE (DPM)?

http://m0003.gamecopyworld.com/games...driver_3.shtml

Greets

Yes, I did, but have since uninstalled everything and am back running with the DVD in the drive. I felt it really screwed up my system. It did work and here's what I did.

First dowloaded a trial of Alchohol 120% and made an image of the gamed. Next downloaded Daemon Tools and tried to mount the .mdf file, that did not work, so I downloaded a trial of VD Pro and made another image with it. Then if you go into VD PRO and use it's "diaable" cd-rom function, you can then mount the .mdf image and it will work. With Daemon Tools, there is a constant advertising bar that is always at the bottom of the screen, that I did not like, as it was constantly loading stuff all the time.

I'd be interested in hearing feedback from anyones experiences with sucess..

Yes i did and found it to be absolutely useless as was the mdf file that came with the dload..
Seems unless you have a special system setup the same way as the guy who orginally made the image, you wont have much luck getting it to work..im still waiting for a ride..:mad:

@randm
Well you should at least be able to use the original disc to play? For now anyway, until a proper NoCD/DVD method is found.

"ditto"

Hehehehe yeah ok...:p

see above post

it work fine for me with virtualdrive...

What's your system configuration.

That method is system config dependent...

are you sure?

i have amd 64 bit 3200+
1 giga ram
win xp sp1
nvidia 6600 gt
asus a8n-sli...

As expected, it's a motherboard equipped with an nForce (4) chipset.

How to get the game running
 

You have to unplug any cd/dvd rom drive on your Pc before booting up your system. That's all. VCD Pro10 didn't work for me, neither SF-nightmare.
Specs:
P4 3GH
Abit AI7 motherboard
1GB ram etc.
That's all