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t.foster73 05-11-2004 01:34

Flat Out Protection
 
Has anyone bought this (Released in UK today), and used A-Scanner to check the protection. I played the demo, which was superb, but it restarted my machine, which looks like it may be Ye olde pal Starforce.

jimbo82 05-11-2004 04:27

Flat Out
 
I've used Clony XXL for scanning this game. And Clony has find out that it is protected with SafeDisc.

JoyBoy 05-11-2004 04:52

Ever so slightly off topic, but I played the demo last night. Cool game. The Nitrous effect has been blatently stolen from Burnout (I think even Midnight Club had that blur effect too). Even that whole 'throw the driver through the windscreen' has a Takenout/Takedown feel to it (also from Burnout). If you dont have access to Burnout 3, then get this, as its probably the closest you will ever get to Burnout on the PC :D

Riiiiiiiiiisssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

t.foster73 05-11-2004 05:05

I believe it's not out in the US until next year. Does this mean less chance of a NOCD do you think?

cdkiller 05-11-2004 08:57

in germany itīs allready released ;)
i think itīs securom 5.03.06 but iīm only guessing..

Luciel 05-11-2004 10:31

Ok i just bought it (AWSOME GAME BTW, Destruction Derby fans will love it to bits), used PiD v5.0 final b...

-=[ ProtectionID v5 ]=- (c) CdKiller
Build 17032004....
> Ready
Scanning -> G:\00000000.256
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 0.656 Seconds

Scanning -> G:\00000001.TMP
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> G:\00000002.TMP
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 0.750 Seconds

Scanning -> G:\DrvMgt.dll
File Type : Dll, Size : 41472 (0A200h) Bytes
[!] File appears to have no protection or is using an unknown protection
- Scan Took : 0.953 Seconds

Scanning -> G:\SECDRV.SYS
File Type : Exe, Size : 163644 (027F3Ch) Bytes
-> File has 60 (03Ch) bytes of appended data starting at offset 027F00h
[!] File appears to have no protection or is using an unknown protection
- Scan Took : 0.969 Seconds

Scanning -> G:\program files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\common2.bfs
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 123.797 Seconds

Thats the scan of the whole cd
And here's the scan of the game folder on the HDD


Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Bugbear.url
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\common1.bfs
[x] File size is > 20mb, operation aborted due to user request
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\common2.bfs
[x] File size is > 20mb, operation aborted due to user request
- Scan Took : 0.984 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Empire Interactive.url
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\europe.bfs
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 0.985 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\filesystem.ini
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\flatout.exe
File Type : Exe, Size : 4500491 (044AC0Bh) Bytes
-> File has 1649675 (0192C0Bh) bytes of appended data starting at offset 02B8000h
[!] File appears to have no protection or is using an unknown protection
- Scan Took : 0.422 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\FlatOut.url
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Savegame\am0000000000000000000 0000000000000.dat
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Savegame\device.cfg
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Savegame\options.cfg
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Savegame\options.sav
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 0.968 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Savegame\player001.sav
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Psykiatri 06-11-2004 01:02

Anyone have a crack for this yet? I have the ISO's but need a crack.. Apparently its using a new version of safedisc...

pcs-alien 06-11-2004 08:44

Any news about nocd ?

Alien

Luciel 06-11-2004 13:36

Psykiatri, go buy the game u twat. BANNED

Magnetic 06-11-2004 17:59

i bought it yesterday itīs a really good game, really reminds me of the good old destruction derby times :D , scanned the first cd ( btw cd 2 is also protected) with aray and it says safedisc 2( if it was 3.2.xxx, aray would have recognized it), so itīs gotta be a new revision of safedisc, itīs like clony xxl said or says safedisc 2 when scanning a disc with safedisc 3...well i made an image with clone cd 5 and mounting with dt works fine, you can play via back up, also tried mir, sadly doesnīt work, so itīs a new safedisc version i guess....

Luciel 06-11-2004 20:42

its rlly weird that my scan came out with nothing o.O anyhow, yes it feels nostalgic i used to love the DD games, and it rlly pissed me off when the third in the series (RAW) only came out on psx, fecking bastards. Aniways no one seems to play flatout online just yet, :P

cdkiller 07-11-2004 04:26

Quote:

its rlly weird that my scan came out with nothing
see the answer in my protection id thread.

Luciel 07-11-2004 09:37

oh ok, well hope u release an update version :)

Newbinator 07-11-2004 11:38

how come the game is already out?? gamespot said it will be out next year??

and will there be a No-CD crack released soon? i really want to buy this game in canada..but dunno where

Luciel 07-11-2004 12:22

ive talked to friends in other countrys and it looks like uk got an early release
wich is weird.

freeman002 07-11-2004 14:18

Flat-Out
 
Does anyone no when a nocd will be released for this as ive tried to make working backups from the origionals it keeps saying insert cd even used 4.7 of deamon toolz still no luck also is it just me or does this game swap-file a **** load mine jerks every so often and the cd light locks up so a nocd would be great it would also fix my backup i suppose as im not very clued up on all this deamon tools safedisk emulation ****....

mobo is

athlon 2600xp
2x 150 sata 80gig 7200 rpm drives
windows swapfile on second drive not windows installed drive
epox main board (wicked i might add)

no other game does this id just like to add

pc_plod 08-11-2004 11:04

flatout
 
any news on a no-cd yet ???
only ive heard that there are other "copys" flying about that work without a no-cd just via daemon tools

pc_plod 08-11-2004 11:56

flatout
 
ive sorted it out, seems the game was picking up on clonecd virtual drives (even though i'd got them disabled)... uninstalled clonecd and game plays a treat with image 1 mounted on daemon

BarryB 08-11-2004 13:16

I think this game has the new Safedisc v4 or Safedisc Advanced (maybe they are one and the same?), that's why Clony and other ID progs can't find the signatures. The fact it has 00000001.TMP and 00000002.TMP files on the CD suggest Safedisc as well.

If it is a new breed of Safedisc it may take a bit more time for a crack, nevermind a 'working' crack :) to appear.

Luciel 09-11-2004 00:28

Thats IT, NEXT PERSON TO ASK FOR A NOCD ON THIS THREAD B4 THE END OF NEXT WEEEk (2weeks) GETS A 1month BAN!

n00bie 09-11-2004 04:15

Well I like racing games and after Bounty gave it a raving review I looked it up and bought it. This gave me a chance to play around with it.

Using the latest daemon tools this game works perfectly without a cd. I also had to remove clonecd.

Magnetic 09-11-2004 04:32

yeah that works for me also, but even without uninstalling clone cd...did you try mir? doesntīwork...i hope there will be an update for the new sd version.

t.foster73 09-11-2004 06:48

Fine for me to. Great game, but I'm currently spending most time on NEXUS The Jupiter Incident, which is awesome!

renandstimpy 09-11-2004 08:27

it doesnt work for me. ive mounted it in deamon tools (3.47) and it still asks for cd. im obviously doing something wrong. can someone help?

krondike 09-11-2004 10:52

To summery all the conclusion we have on this f*cking topic.

Is there a no-cd out?
Nope (Officaly).

Protection?
Read CDKiller's Protection ID topic. He says new safedisc version have deleted the SafeDisc version tag, so protection ID can't find the SafeDisc Id-tag. So my bet it's "new" SafeDisc.

Can it be emulated?
I haven't have any problem with emulating the new game's that was SafeDisc protected, like The Sims 2.
Hardly doubt that I should have problem with this one.

Will a mini image be avible?
Someday in sometime it will be... it will be.

@renandstimpy: Remake your image file.

@BarryB: Hardy doubt it's SafeDisc 4. SafeDisc 3 was newly released and realy think it's need to be more "rebuild" to make it label Safedisc 4. This might be SafeDisc 3.3 or SafeDisc 3.4... who knows.

@freeman002: When I can confirm that it can be emulated (becuase hard to confirm without having the original CD:s to read it in) I might/or someone else might make a mini-image so you all can enjoy without the CD in it.....:D

gmtakira 09-11-2004 13:15

I remove clonecd and use latest daemon tools version. that works!

BarryB 09-11-2004 18:29

@krondike: I was going by the fact that Knight Rider 2 and the Myst 4: Revelation Patch 1.1 are being ID'd as Safedisc v4.

Maybe Macrovision stepped up it's development cycle?

Bobby Shaftoe 10-11-2004 03:16

flatout starts up without any problems with d-tools, but i got CTDs whenever i try to choose a game type.

jayjai2001 10-11-2004 03:37

In Germany itīs defently Savedisk.With the new Version of Clone cd and Deamon toll you can Play without cd.When you use Mini Image Recorder
youre image are ca. 27Kb.

sky1984 10-11-2004 03:50

ok, just joined. was reading that some of you have got Flatout working using deamon tools 3.47

i have just downloaded that and as wondering if someone would be so kind as to help me do what i need to do to play it. :)

Thanks.

krondike 10-11-2004 07:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by sky1984
ok, just joined. was reading that some of you have got Flatout working using deamon tools 3.47

i have just downloaded that and as wondering if someone would be so kind as to help me do what i need to do to play it. :)

Thanks.

What about the game? :p

JoyBoy 10-11-2004 07:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by n00bie
Well I like racing games and after Bounty gave it a raving review I looked it up and bought it.

Raving? I basically tried to say it was not as good as Burnout 3 :cool: Personally, besides the car physics, which put Burnout to shame, this game is stupid. One big issue I have with the game, is that for a Track Racer, the actual Tracks themselves dont feel natural. If a racer cant get the tracks right, why should I bother to play it. :mad:

Consoles rule for Racing Games!

Magnetic 10-11-2004 08:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayjai2001
In Germany itīs defently Savedisk.With the new Version of Clone cd and Deamon toll you can Play without cd.When you use Mini Image Recorder
youre image are ca. 27Kb.


mh, strange, mir doesnīt work for me, i can only play with mounting the full ccd image of cd 1 :confused:

Rayder 10-11-2004 09:11

To those having "emulation detected..." issues with CloneCD and this game when mounting in D-Tools......open the CloneCD tray icon and UNcheck "Hide CDR Media". To successfully mount it in D-Tools, ALL the emulation options MUST be enabled in D-Tools. That should fix it for ya.

Of course there is always the thing of "just use the originals" too. ;)

Great game BTW.

dEviZe 10-11-2004 14:08

Nocd Crack Or Burn Doc.
 
I need the nocd crack or Burn doc (Anleitung).
thx
______________________________
I can't so good English!!!!!!!

lurch68b 10-11-2004 15:14

Well if this don't suck big nuggies!! I have played the demo and found it to be fun but not so fun I would spend a lot of time playing it. Now the full version I would play a bit more but I can't buy it because some fool decided to delay a US release. :( Oh well I guess it's a good thing as there is so much stuff coming out that I wouldn't have a lot of time to play it anyways.

Zippo1985 11-11-2004 00:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayjai2001
In Germany itīs defently Savedisk.With the new Version of Clone cd and Deamon toll you can Play without cd.When you use Mini Image Recorder
youre image are ca. 27Kb.


Sorry, but what's that "Mini Image Recorder" and where can it be found ?? :confused:

[[UK]]Toker 11-11-2004 10:20

flatout
 
I have just brought Flatout and think its wicked game yet theres no 1 playing online :( i think it would be a good idea if we arrange a time to play 4 those who have brought the game as i think it would be fun i will have a game waiting at 8pm tonight if any1 would like to join if not ill post my msn addy so those of u who can play can msn me to arrange some banger raceing :)

Luciel 11-11-2004 10:25

Hey toker, i really cant tonight, but id love to play some other time, get my msn addie from my pro and add me :)

[[UK]]Toker 11-11-2004 16:11

kool luciel ive added u to msn and will chat 2moz and have a few games will be fun :D


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