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JoyBoy 31-03-2004 12:43

Games Are For Kids
 
Discuss...

TylerDurden 31-03-2004 14:54

Games Are For Kids, hmmm, yeah especially the "M" rated ones. ;)






Tyler!

Luciel 31-03-2004 15:54

Yeah well u see this is the whole problem of society, mum goes into the local game shop, and buys max payne, manhount or gta for her 13 year old kid, the age thingis are there for a reason and if a game is mature rating like max payne for the amount of violence or/and reference or actions of sex wich are not suitable for a 13 year old kid, most of u might think its a stupid thing this, but its how it is, and sometimes people should think about this.

JoyBoy 31-03-2004 15:57

No No No, this thread should not go down the route of kids should not be playing adult themed games (like GTA and Tellitubbies). What I meant was should adults, like me, still be playing with toys? (Video Games, consoles etc). Should only kids be allowed to enjoy Video Games?

Still a good point, Luciel.

Luciel 31-03-2004 16:01

well of course adults should play bounty, after all, its adults making the games rite? john carmack is an adult, yet he made the doom trilogy :) besides, its always good to go and play an online game with a 30 year old guy or woman that doesnt call u a cheater every time u kill them precisely cos they are not kids. So yeah U SHOULD besides im telling you GO KILL PEOPLE ONLINE NOW!!!! :P

JoyBoy 31-03-2004 16:05

Ok, what if I have now lost all interest in videogames. Is there anyway to get my enthusiasm back? Which is why I go back to my original statement, GAMES ARE FOR KIDS..
Once I feel you reach a certain age, you relise how fruitless and boring playing games really is. I'm still amazed there are people on here aged 40+ who still play games. How do YOU people do it? What motivates you?

Luciel 31-03-2004 16:10

well bounty, hm, i suppose everyone has a passion, and some passions dont die, my father is in the computer business so cos of that ive been into games since i was 5, with the likes of lemmings and aqualung or micemen and blues brothers, so the passion grows i suppose, i suppose what you need to do, is go to a big games store, not one that has a small pc section with only the known stuff, have a big look spend ur time, and eventually ull come with something new, and lately theres loads of new ideas coming out, yesterday for example i bought upling, such a simple game, no complicated graphics, yet so addictive and well made. So think about it, give the games another chance, BUT stick to pc ;) if u need any personal recommendation ill be glad to add u to my msn, since i get them free from my dads shop so i try mostly every game, see you around bounty.

JoyBoy 31-03-2004 16:24

Been playing games since I was around 3/4 years old. Now, 20 years later, I have come to relise that games are still the same now as they were back then. Despite what Graphics Whores tell ya. Been no geniune innovation for a long time. Although that Eye Toy thiniemejig is good for a laugh :p Which is what playing games should be all about. Having a Laugh. Not wasting 100 hours just to level up your character in some generic RPG. Wheres the fun in that? Sony killed it, I tell ya.

Luciel 31-03-2004 16:27

yeah ive always disliked final fantasy and the likes, what ever happened to good 'ol table rol? thats why i dont play that kinda games, i spend my time trying to figure how can i play wiht my neighbou C&C the original over modem, problem is i dont have a modem i have broadband, but im getting one so we can play direct call :)

JoyBoy 31-03-2004 16:32

Hehe, always hated those C&C Games with a passion. Perhaps because they have always been too hard for me. When I said 'Sony Killed It' I meant the Games Industry in General :p

Luciel 31-03-2004 16:35

ahaha C&C was hard but i just had to defeat the evil kane!!! didnt got further than level 13 it was just so annoying but hey. I feel like playing day of the tentacle and discworld, they were rlly the only adventure games that entertained me, broken sword was just to boring :P

Quall999 31-03-2004 21:38

Well, times change. The generations will probably be a little more stricter as time goes by, since the younger adult audiance know how games can be.

I mean, when kid's parents had games on nintendos in the late 80's/earlt 90's, and lose interest, the image of those "harmless" games stick with them. I know alot of adults in their late twenty's and early 30's that don't play games. And to know how much violence are in games, you would have to play them (aside from the news from time to time). When violent games are bought for their children, they usually don't watch them to play it long enouph to know how violent or how adult themed it may be.

Yes, the ratings are there, but parents do ignore them. And refering to my first paragraph, the ratings won't be ignored as much in the future. The people buying them for their children, are also going to be buying games for themselves. They know how much the violence and sex reference would have evolved.

JoyBoy 01-04-2004 15:22

I think the whole Games Industry is pretty stagnant at the moment, theres no truely 'amazing' games or genres left to develop. Even on the so called 'Next Generation' Platforms that are coming up in the next 2 years or so its going to be the same old tired Franchises that will be the selling points for the the respective Consoles/PC. Hence, once you played one Pro Evo, Gran Turismo, FPS or, ermmm, Tomb Raider you have played them all. Thats why only kids will get enjoyment out of any these 'new' titles.

GAMES ARE FOR KIDS, ADMIT IT!

Luciel 01-04-2004 16:36

now now bounty, u cant say doom 3 is like its predecessors can ya :)

JoyBoy 01-04-2004 17:03

DOOM 3 will be all graphics and no gameplay. Mark My Words!

Quall999 01-04-2004 23:15

But what keeps it going is that only a few good games are released every year. Not every game is the same. I mean once you play one fps, that doesn't mean you've played em all.

For example, how about that robocop? I don't know anyone who bought that game, yet, other fps are bought by my friends all the time. Why? Well, because robcop sucked. They genre may stay the same, but gameplay changes all the time.

Games are for those that enjoy them. In the past I would think they were meant to be for kids, but now developers are trying to get games to appeal for the older audiance, which they have and always will do. Some lose interest, some don't.

Flyblown_Jester 02-04-2004 04:25

HAHAHAHAHA! What a topic to have started on GCW, the center point of almost every gamer in this world lol.

Yes Bounty I am prolly the biggest Graphics whore this world has ever seen, and I think I deserve to have my cake now, and eat it.
I have been waiting for my whole life to get the eyecandy into my gaming world (38 now) But sadly yes, I do have to agree with you about the same old gameplay in nearly every new game release.

BF1942, GTA vice and a few others have stepped out of the first person shooter syndrome to include the use of vehicles, this is good and gives the gamer some variation. But the kill, kiss or trade with em' style of game is still very much the same. Hmm there is a game that does change the rules a bit and i'll just type hint here --- Postman with a black coat lol. Not for the kiddies.

MA+ rated Gaming is most definately designed for older kids like us and then its up to us, the parents to decide the viewing for our kids. I would never let my 6 & 11 yo girls play GTA vice without me present - they drive around in the cars and bikes but do not play the story line. Then they go play Zelda and decapitate a creature or two lol.

Just my thoughts - every one has thier own gmaing view I suppose.

L8rz
Flyblown_Jester

Luciel 02-04-2004 05:30

mwahahaha postal 2!!!! poor petrol on someone, get the matches, and then out of my good heart i piss on em to get rid of the flames MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA :P BRILLIANT!

Quall999 04-04-2004 04:01

I found postal 2 the worst game I've ever played. Other than the long walks with no action and long loading times, the game is the most boring and repetative swarm of crap I've ever played. not to mention the shotty graphics. Went to IGN and they pointed out everything I hated about the game specifically.

1. bought game
2. installed game
3. played game for 2 hours
4. Unistalled game
5. Give to friend for free (even a dollar would be ripping him off)

Luciel 04-04-2004 04:47

the long loading times are fixed with the 1.1 patch... and i kinda trust pcgamer reviews more than u and they gave em 75 wich in pcgamer is a very good mark so yeah, and i dont regret buying it

Eagle 04-04-2004 06:29

Postals' 2 features are funny, but only once. After you've tried everything this game is simply boring.

Quall999 05-04-2004 04:56

yah, when I first got it, i was just lighting people on fie and pissing on em. Then played catch with the dog (using a head) for a while.

Anyways, after I got to the "cash check" part, the game completely sucked. After standing in line for 15 minutes because it kept glitching out or something. The banker kept telling me to go to the end of the line over and over when I finally got up to the counter. Had to stand in line around 6 times.
After I got to that part, the bank gets robbed. I either had to sit there forever and wait until it was resolved, or try and stop them...which the police would then go after me instead of them if I did. The game wasn't worth that much of a hassle, since the market was just the same as the bank. Plus the random back shots from the amazing appearing rioters. (I admit though, the restroom was pretty funny)

JoyBoy 05-04-2004 05:07

Postal 2 = ****e

Absolute ****e

Aimed At Kids

Hence

GAMES ARE FOR KIDS!

Quall999 05-04-2004 08:48

Postal 2 cannot even be considered a game. It's so horrible. I have to admit though, I don't know many people over 30 that play games. So, I guess if you consider anyone in their 20's a kid still, i'd have to agree.

I can honestly say that in 10 years, I probably won't play game nearly as much. But I still don't think all games are meant for kids.

Flyblown_Jester 06-04-2004 03:12

OMFG! what a nasty topic this has turned into lol.

Qual, in 10 years you will be playing twice as many games because;
1. The money will be in greater abundance at that age.
2. You will be way to hooked to give the habbit away.
3. 4 out of 5 households will own a PC and 'gaming' will be the worlds favorite lesure time.
4. When your 30, you will see the world through a 30 year old's eyes, this will change everything that you are - attitude towards older people included.

I played postal2 through and had no probs in the bank, no glitches with the game play(after the patch) and found many ways to get through a level --- like walking on powerlines etc.
However, the game has no replay value and the mod's available are not worth a complete replay. But the pure sickness of this game compelled me to buy it anyway. lol.

To finalise my comment, I do think games are for kids BUT! only the ones that are rated so. If the game is rated MA-15+ or R, then the target audience was never intended for children.
My local game retailer & game hire store ask for ID to rent out any MA or R material - I was very pleased with that attitude.

Ps. Ive been playing heaps of online' Freelancer lately, not bad - any comments? Post away lol.

L8rz
Flyblown_Jester

Quall999 07-04-2004 06:19

I might play a game once a week, now. The only game I can see myslef play in the future are multiplayer online fps's, or rpgs. There are only a hand full of rpg's that I will play.

TylerDurden 07-04-2004 08:49

I personally am one of the elders of these forums and I dont feel insecure in saying that I like to play console games and the occasional PC game. I like games that have good stories (like some RPG's) and I also enjoy seeing what this particular year has brought to us with graphics.

I have also found that PS2/Xbox Parties are always great fun. Especially with a seemingly endless supply of beer. Mix in a nice BBQ and your all set.

I kinda get the feelin that maybe Bounty's wife or girlfriend may have a hand in his sudden change of heart. If not, then do as you like man, but I dont think your right.



Tyler!

gamesmell 07-04-2004 10:24

i agree with tyler mostley but I like action and puzzel games also I dont like to play pc games all that much

my favorate game is Earthbound for snes

and I shure as hell wont pay something like 13 dolers a month like with the new ff I like to take my time when playing games and to play that one Ide end up spending a fortune
to tell you how slow I play games im still playing Earthbound

JoyBoy 07-04-2004 13:26

Quote:

Originally posted by TylerDurden
I kinda get the feelin that maybe Bounty's wife or girlfriend may have a hand in his sudden change of heart.
Yeah, thats the game I am currently enjoying. Getting Laid* :D

Definately not for Kids!

Well that and Far Cry. Average

TylerDurden 07-04-2004 13:56

Yeah but dont let her tell you, that you cant have both. ;)



Tyler!

Warlock 07-04-2004 17:48

Alot of older people play video games, you may be suprised who. http://www.comcast.net/News/TECHNOLO...acfa825fa.html

JoyBoy 07-04-2004 18:02

Quote:

Originally posted by TylerDurden
Yeah but dont let her tell you, that you cant have both. ;)

Maybe theres a way to somehow combine the two?

And Warlock, people older then 30 only play Videogames because they are trying to look cool or are just trying to recapture their youth. Midlife crisis or something. Ask Rince, he will tell you ;)

Warlock 07-04-2004 18:24

Quote:

Originally posted by BountyWarrior
Maybe theres a way to somehow combine the two?

And Warlock, people older then 30 only play Videogames because they are trying to look cool or are just trying to recapture their youth. Midlife crisis or something. Ask Rince, he will tell you ;)

Uhh, Bounty, I am 37, Thats right, 37. Personally I could care less about looking cool to any young punk, guy or gal, and wouldnt trade one of my 37 years for nothing. I'm sucessful, retired from the Army now operating a Construction business here in Georgia, I've got more pussy on accident than most of you will ever get on purpose so there's no midlife crisis here ;) . I play games for pure enjoyment. It helps me relax as well as lets me spend more time with my kids. Now its none of my business, but if you have gotten involved with a girl that makes fun of you for playing video games, tells you you are to old, says you are a big kid or wants to change you from yourself to something you are not then maybe SHE is the problem and you should drop her instead of gaming.

JoyBoy 07-04-2004 18:33

Woah, Woah, WOAH... Easy Tiger. Seems I hit a sore spot about the age thing there. HMMMMM

And the last thing about dropping some lovin in favour of games? What the hell is that, man? Go wash your mouth. With SOAP!

TylerDurden 07-04-2004 18:51

LMAO! Now this is gettin interesting.




Tyler!

Warlock 07-04-2004 18:52

Quote:

Originally posted by BountyWarrior
Woah, Woah, WOAH... Easy Tiger. Seems I hit a sore spot about the age thing there. HMMMMM

And the last thing about dropping some lovin in favour of games? What the hell is that, man? Go wash your mouth. With SOAP!

Sorry man i didnt mean to come off like i was mad. I"m not :) I do think your wrong about people 30+ though.

JoyBoy 07-04-2004 19:01

Hehe

gamesmell 07-04-2004 19:05

Quote:

Originally posted by BountyWarrior
Maybe theres a way to somehow combine the two?



if you did youd have a boner every time you play video games (if you dont already)

Edit:and youd not get very far in the games because youd have to keep dieing to get the controler to vibrate

Luciel 09-04-2004 07:46

LOL this thread has become very interesting;
1: Hm combining the 2... u could always play a porn game although they tend to be ammazingly BAD!
2: To the dude that said abotu freelancer, i enyoed every second of the game, great storyline too!
3: Games are NOT only for kids, games are for everyone who wants them, i agree with the relaxing bit, when im angry or down, a game of quake 3 always helps.

TylerDurden 09-04-2004 14:28

Quote:

Originally posted by BountyWarrior
Maybe theres a way to somehow combine the two?

This reminds me of a Seinfeld episode where George combines sex and eating. Eventually everytime he ate outside of xex he wound up gettin flushed. :p


So I would think that if you did combine gaming and your lady, you may wanna watch out when you game by yourself. Lotion and the PS2 controller dont mix.



Tyler!:D


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