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GtMustangJim 08-11-2002 10:43

PS2 Patches for DVD-R's???
 
Why aren't there any PS2 Pal/NTFS patches for DVD-R's??

This is the reason I ask:

SCEA forced Acclaim to censored the Sh*T out of it's up and coming new release of BMX XXX.

However SCEE (Europe) has decided to leave the game in its original uncensored form.

Note: Gamecube & Xbox are leaving it alone as well. Heck if anyone were to censored the Sh*t out of it, you would think it would be gamecube not Sony!

I have a friend in the UK that can get the SCEE version of the game for me when it comes out in a few days however there TV's are PAL and ours are NTFS.

What I'd like to do is Rip the SCEE version to my HD, apply some sort of PAL 2 NTFS patch, Burn it to DVD-R, and play it on my US neo 2.2 PS2 but, I guess I can't because I can't find any PS2 DVD-R patches at all. I just find the one's for CDR's <sigh>

Now I know BMX XXX is not out yet and I'm not saying I'm looking for a patch for a game that's not out yet. What I am saying is that I noticed I can't find any PS2 DVD-R patches out.

There must be a reason for this and was just wondering what it might be?

If I get a hold of the SCEE version is there anyway I will be able to play it?

Anyone have any ideas on how to solve my problem? I can only think of a few that aren't very good ideas
  • Move to Europe (I wish)
  • Buy a PAL TV (not worth the effort)
  • Buy a Xbox (Sorry I hate Xbox)
  • Buy a Gamecube (They lost my loyalty a long time ago)
  • Just play the SCEA watered down version (puke)
  • Just Give up!(never!!)

Any more suggestions would be greatly appreciated

lufcfan 08-11-2002 12:35

If your TV has two scart (AV) sockets, one will probably support PAL compression. Get yourself a PS2 to Scart (AV) lead. Not sure if you can get them in NTSC supporting countries but you probably can. Try each socket. Your console will play them if it is modded and even if your TV doesn't support it, you will still have a better picture when you play your PS2 games. Hope this helps. You have nothing to lose but all to gain...

GtMustangJim 08-11-2002 12:52

@lufcfan

My TV only has "coax in" however I am in the market for a new TV. So that is one possible solution.

I might just break in and get a Xbox. I want to get DOA extreme beach V-Ball and that's on Xbox only. another <sigh>

If I do that then I have to make sure to find a ver 1 Xbox for latter modding.

I'd still like to know why there doesn't appear to be any PS2 DVD-R pal/NTSF patches?

Also if any else has any other suggestions I'm all ears.

lufcfan 08-11-2002 13:03

URGH! I absolutely hate XboXes. Sigh is right. I would get a new TV, at least thats nice to look at. lol. And you don't have to build an extension to fit it in. :D

GtMustangJim 08-11-2002 13:10

@lufcfan

Thats funny me and you are alot alike. We both have the same ver PS2 (different mods) the same DVD-R & CDR Drives. I just upgraded my 1G T-bird for a XP2100+ and we both feel the same about the Xbox!!!

Next your going to tell me you like to play around with DSS stuff too! lol

GtMustangJim 08-11-2002 13:20

@lufcfan

Holly Sh*t I just noticed we both have the same DVD reader as well!! Thats too weird!!

HANS_COBBO 08-11-2002 14:39

DVD based games do not need to be patched. Also there are no available patches for DVD games out there on the net as of this moment. The only game I think that is protected is (PAL) DRAKEN, the NTSC version is okay. If I was you I would invest in getting another chip other than the neo 2.2 as they are sh*** and get a one of the new messiah 2 chips that are going to be available soon and import a (PAL) BMM-XXX if you live outside of Europe. And by the way the (PAL) version is still cut, believe me, I have seen the beta code and the final version still has certain features taken out, and I’m not going to mention what they are.

Another suggestion is for to wait for a rip kit to be come available then you could apply an NTSC/PAL patch or vice versa and burn it to a normal CD-R.

girovend 08-11-2002 15:00

Hey GtMustangJim

What proggies do you use to patch the cdr games
and where do you get the patches
I've been looking for a while and the only advice
I've had is get a decent scart lead.

GtMustangJim 08-11-2002 15:01

@HANS_COBBO

Wow! great Reply!

Really no need for me to wait for a rip kit when I have a DVD-R burner and pretty good at burning PS2 backups.

Also can you give me more detail on "DVD based games do not need to be patched" You mean a PAL PS2 DVD game will play on a NTSF TV without some sort of patch as long as the PS2 is modded?

As far as my neo2.2 goes, all the swapping doesn't bother me too much. Is there a reason other than that to upgrade to messiah or one of the other top mods?

Oh just one more thing about SCEE ver of BMX XXX. Are you sure about it being edited like the SCEA ver? My source is Editor in Chief of PlayStation Pro 2 and he says its going to be untouched.

My words are coming out all wrong. Its sounds like I am disputing you when really I'm trying to thank you for the info.

Thanks for the reply.

GtMustangJim 08-11-2002 15:15

@girovend

Geese I'm just a newbie with 3 posts to my name but If I had to guess I'd say megagames ;)

begin Edit===

http://www.megagames.com/ps2/ps2_patches.shtml

To be exact...

End Edit===

HANS_COBBO 08-11-2002 15:17

Okay, no need to be sarcastic. Basically like i said there are no DVD-R patches out there on the net. And i wasn't being funny about asking you to upgrade to a new mod chip. If you do plan on getting a PAL version of BMX-XXX then you will need to obtain a multi system T.V that can handle NTSC and a PAL signal, otherwise get a NTSC2PAL converter which are quite expensive. Coz if you try and run the game, the screen will be come corrupted and flicker, etc.


At the end of the day i'm only trying to help, as this is what this forum is for.

HANS_COBBO 08-11-2002 15:29

Well you sound like a newbie to me by the sounds of it, as if you know about copying so much etc, then you should have known the solution to your problem and technical info etc... And MEGAGAMES do not have DVD-R patches. I'm not going to argue anymore as this isn't going to go anywhere

There is no please in people anymore.


MODERATORS CLOSE THIS THREAD...

GtMustangJim 08-11-2002 15:36

@HANS_COBBO

Belive it or not that post was not meant to be sarcastic. That's just the way the words turned out.

Thank you for anything you have to say.

I'm just trying to figure the best thing for me to do. I know there aren't any DVD-R pal 2 NTSC patches out there I just wanted to know why?

I mean is it do to a technical problem or is it do to lack of demand? or some other reason?

GtMustangJim 08-11-2002 15:42

@ HANS_COBBO

Come on now. Looks like I didn't submit my last post in time. I'm trying to argue with you at all.

I try to make as many friends as I can. If anything I said came out the wrong way a deeply apologize.

I know megagames has no DVD-R patches I never said they did. That guy was asking for CDR patches and I gave him a link.

Mods please do not close this thread as I am only trying to find some suggestions to my problem.

Once again I am sorry if any I said was taking the wrong way. I just want to be friends with you.

HANS_COBBO 08-11-2002 15:46

Okay, it just sounded that way. PPF-O-MATIC 3 does support DVD images, which is odd as there isn't any. The only suggestion is that of my last post about getting a mutli system TV or NTSC2PAL converter or vice versa but it's down to the money if you have it at the end of the day. Other user' on this forum might have a better answer to your problem. (i.e. BG and Charlie)


:)

GtMustangJim 08-11-2002 16:11

@HANS_COBBO

Sorry about the rough start. If you look at my first reply to you, at the end I made a comment about hoping you don't read this the wrong way. also note that the message is "un-edited".

I think you can tell I'm not really a newbie. I'm just new to this forum.

Just looking for mutable solutions. That's all.

Once again I apologize for anything taking the wrong way.

HANS_COBBO 08-11-2002 16:36

Okay, no problem.


;)

TylerDurden 09-11-2002 08:10

Quote:

Originally posted by HANS_COBBO
PPF-O-MATIC 3 does support DVD images, which is odd as there isn't any.

Wrong!


I noticed you said about 3 times that there were no patches for dvd. That is false.


There are patches, but just patches for Pal/Ntsc and Ntsc/Pal and a few others probably. So far there are no antiprotection patches, since there really is no need for them.



GtMustangJim, to answer your question. There are patches for what you are looking for. And Im betting within time there will be a PAL/NTSC patch for BMX XXX (PAL) so it can be played here with NTSC consoles.


Here is a good site that makes PAL to NTSC patches:

http://ps2chimps.consoleinfo.com

I recommend you save its location for future reference. Make sure when finding the patch for the game, you notice that it says FULL DVD patch. Not DVD rip.



Also thanks for the tip about the censored US version. I think I may be getting the PAL version and wait for the FULL DVD patch.





The all knowing TYLER! :p

GtMustangJim 09-11-2002 08:55

@TylerDurden

Thanks for the critical information! I'll be sure to bookmark it!

TylerDurden 09-11-2002 08:59

No prob man, I just had to set things straight and maybe save you a couple hundred bucks on not buying an xbox.




Tyler!

lufcfan 09-11-2002 10:35

@GtMustangJim


WOW, that is wierd. Great drives aren't they. Glad I can find another person to add to my Hate XboX list. lol.

GtMustangJim 09-11-2002 13:04

@lufcfan

You've got PM!

Asmodeus 09-11-2002 18:33

Scart sockets
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lufcfan
If your TV has two scart (AV) sockets, one will probably support PAL compression. Get yourself a PS2 to Scart (AV) lead. Not sure if you can get them in NTSC supporting countries but you probably can. Try each socket. Your console will play them if it is modded and even if your TV doesn't support it, you will still have a better picture when you play your PS2 games. Hope this helps. You have nothing to lose but all to gain...
Sorry for the pedantry, but just to avoid confusion on similar issues in future I'd like to point out that SCART sockets are only used in Europe and parts of Asia. In America and Japan they use a different (and more recent) RGB option called Component RGB, which involves 4 BNC or Phono plugs, not an all in one Plug!

An improved chip will allow play of the game on an NTSC PS2, as the NTSC machines will output only NTSC signals anyway. If there were an issue still, then a PS2 Component RGB cable should solve any colour problems, but Component RGB TVs are still in the higher price ranges.

lufcfan 10-11-2002 11:19

Well, I live in England and i've never been to America so I wouldn't know what they use over there. Only a guess based on what we use and what would work over here...

BG 10-11-2002 13:47

Re: Scart sockets
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Asmodeus
Sorry for the pedantry, but just to avoid confusion on similar issues in future I'd like to point out that SCART sockets are only used in Europe and parts of Asia. In America and Japan they use a different (and more recent) RGB option called Component RGB, which involves 4 BNC or Phono plugs, not an all in one Plug!
The Scart socket is used in the US also.(although not widely used) It can be found on alot of the higher end TVs...

Quote:

Originally posted by Asmodeus
An improved chip will allow play of the game on an NTSC PS2, as the NTSC machines will output only NTSC signals anyway. If there were an issue still, then a PS2 Component RGB cable should solve any colour problems, but Component RGB TVs are still in the higher price ranges.
A NTSC PS2 w/modchip will output whatever signal that the game is coded in. If its a PAL game, then the output is PAL and etc...
A multi-system capable TV will solve all color and screen issues, BUT as stated they are definately pricey.....

Asmodeus 10-11-2002 19:05

Re: Re: Scart sockets
 
Quote:

Originally posted by BG
The Scart socket is used in the US also.(although not widely used) It can be found on alot of the higher end TVs...
Yes it is on some higher sets, but largely to allow access to imported devices and specialist switching systems - scart output is almost unheard of on any US VCRs DVD players or Cable boxes. The SCART cable is also known as the EURO connector! But I digress..

Asmodeus 10-11-2002 19:14

US PS2
 
Course, another problem with using PAL output in the US is their TVs - most can't handle a PAL signal properly, giving either a compressed image or rolling, much like European sets used to do in the bad old days. An external convertor would be a cheap solution but their image quality is always pants.


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