Pruned

Oh. This shit again? The last one was just a few months ago. It's awesome how PWizard has immediately figured it out that the login info was stolen by h4x0r. So let's see the whole story:

1. H4x0r has a special code in the trainer that is searching for CH login details specifically.

2. H4x0r is using CH users' accounts.

3. PWizard is detecting that h4x0r (who else could be?) has hijacked an account.

4. Account banned and the registered user was not informed about it at all. Instead, when he says he has used a h4x0r trainer, it turns out that this was the exact reason for the trouble.

Thank you! Laughing is healthy and you have just made my life 1 year longer.
How on Earth do they know if h4x0r is using an account? Could it be someone else? No waaaaaaaay! It was h4x0r for 100%.

Oh come on people. None of these guys could figure out even just a proper children story, not to mention a sophisticated lie.


As for the h4x0r vs CH thing, most people just hate them both. h4x0r is quick tempered and banning people on sight and CH is just... well, CH. I agree with STN on that one.
CH is banning people for saying anything that they don't like, h4x0r is banning people for saying anything that he don't like. Hey guess what? I see a connection here.

I think that banning should be the last solution in handling a problematic forum member and communication should be the first, but this isn't an advice, it is just my opinion. Patience is a virtue, and not just in reverse engineering.

heh Geri, perhaps hax0r and ch should merge.. chx0r :) totally agree too

They could not agree on the name.

chx0r is almost impossible to pronounce and if they change it to ch4x0r, then it will be almost the same as h4x0r's name. They should call themselves:

Cheat H4xpens

That's exactly what I've been doing all the time although most people involve don't understand it. Of course, they don't because they don't even want to. The war could've been "solved" easily and fast, at least on this forum, by permbanning everyone who took part in the very first flame war at once. However, I strongly believe in (and practise) free spech... but only while it remains civil. Those parties could've been banned like a dozen times but I waited and waited and waited; some people see it as impotence or weakness, I see it, like you, a virtue.

By the way, Cheath4x Happensor or CheatHappens & Co.. ;)

a message to h4x0r
 

hi there not to sure if this is the right place to put this but i want an answer i was banned from sicheats a while ago only because i posted a comment looking for help cannceling my cheathappens free account next day i was banned even though i congratulated him for his efforts and how that cheathappens were out of order so i want an answer form him explaning his reasons for barring someone that supported him

Don't multi-post! Also, this is not the Sicheats support forum so, as soon as you get some kind of answer from h4x0r, your post will be deleted. (It should be deleted right now.)

sorry for multi posting please delete i just wanted to track this guy down and finally get an answer sorry if i broke any rules

I like how FF is serving as a 3rd party, you get banned from CH, come here and ask. Sicheats ban you, come here and demand an answer lol.

I'm just glad I dont use or will never use a trainer to play a game :)

I've purposely chosen to stay right out of this silly war as it does not concern me in anyway. :)

But I am also glad that FF does supply a place to vent when innocent people are banned from sishits and shithappens. :p

Well, that means you don't play a lot of games. There are a lot of games that are just too tough to play without cheats/trainers or really boring. Trainers do add fun to game and i am not talking about the usual health/ammo trainers.

and lol @ sishits

Again, I have to stress that I believe in free speech. (It has nothing to do with trainers or any trainer group.) I don't like at all people complaining here about their personal problems with another forum, because that doesn't belong here. But if it's only a few posts, and relatively on-topic inside a general thread of complaints about that another forum, then - as I decided but I might have made a mistake! - we can make an exception because the personal complaint underlines the general one, kind of proving that the general one is not unfounded. It shouldn't get frequent, though...

Actually, I do play a lot of games, I also have 2 teenage kids who play a lot of games, neither of us use trainers. The tougher the game, the harder and longer we persist with it, there is always a way around a decent challenge. :)
Your right about some games being really boring tho, those we just sell. :D

if there was a multiplayer skyrim for grumpy and his kids, grumpy would cease to exist on this board as would myself and alot of the members i think :)

lol, actually i dont really get into games like Skyrim, as good as it does look, but yes my kids are hooked on it.
I myself am hooked on BF3 at moment. Some of the older members would possibly remember me being hooking on BF2 some years back. Also spent a lot of time playing COD4 but sadly MW2 and MW3 fail. :)
But we are getting a bit off topic in this thread now I think, my fault I know. :p

Hi ,

I use h4x0r trainers , never been a problem to me .

;)

Pathetic
 

Cheat Happens, Haxor. and STA Joe are all fucking pathetic. You are all acting like children arguing about something stupid. All of you are idiots because you guys can't get over it. Carrying on a war with another website is stupid and all of you should be ashamed for doing so. I don't give a shit who started it. All of you are morons for not ending it. If you guys don't like each others than stop fighting with each other and get on with your lives.

puck5, we had a quite friendly conversation with Caliber from CheatHappens yesterday so, it seems, we already have a truce and even peace may follow soon. (If you're an agent or fan of CheatHappens, this might be new for you, but ask them for a confirmation if you don't believe me.) You're fuckin' pathetic, away with you! By the way, in case you haven't understood it yet, this forum was an arena and a reluctant - and, apparently, not very experienced - peace maker in this war rather than a combatant so why you blame us is beyond me...

Hi im new to this forum but I use GCW all the time to get H4x0r trainers as i refuse to use CH trainers as I don't want to pay for a cheat subscription and using god knows what to see what stuff iv'e used on my pc. In the business I work in if someone isnt forthcoming of there intentions and putting things on your cumputer without your permission is invasion of privacy and is a crime and also counts a act of fraud so the CH team really need to get there act together.

Now the more pressing issue sicheats site is down and im unable to login in to my trainers.

I may get banned for this but that pwizard guy seriously needs to get laid from what I can make out its him that has spat the dummy out just grow a set and remember back to when cracking games to make trainers was fun and now CH has gone from sticking it to the man to being the man epic fail.

H4x0r carry on the good fight mate and please sort out the login issue please.

That's pretty funny considering h4x0r's trainers are the ones using DRM on FREE TRAINERS and uploading all of your info to their servers each time you run the trainer. Why don't you ask yourself why DRM is needed on something that is FREE? You deserve h4x0r's trainers. Idiot.

@Swaynie, np man, soon OFFLINE mode is avaiable ;)

regards

Why do you think CheatHappens trainers are stealing your personal information? I'm yet to see a proof of that. The same goes for h4x0r's trainers, too.

Then you need to be afraid of Micro$oft much more than of CheatHappens - or other trainer makes, for that matter.

You were given several chances to prove that h4x0r's trainers steal personal information. You didn't. I see no reason to not permban you (again) for spreading lies (again); can you tell me one?

Why don't you fu... ask yourself why DRM is needed on the demos of several games? Idiot.

Wow, Joe, got h4x0r's back again, eh? Weren't you one of the people condeming h4x0r for adding DRM into his free trainers? Now you're a big supporter? *shocker*

BTW, h4x0r, if you're going to add DRM into your trainers, it might help if you not have the $1.99 hosting package (25 pesos) at WEBSITES-R-US.com seeing as how your trainers no longer work when your website is offline for days.

Wow, it's so reassuring to know that you know what I mean better than I do! That's your main problem: coming up with false assumptions and deductions based on incomplete information and, to a great degree, maliciousness. I know intuition and creativity works exactly the same way - if the result is positive and the person benevolent! - but you're supposed be intelligent enough to be able to see the distinction.

I told h4x0r many times that it's a stupid idea - and I still believe it is - but I did it mostly privately and in a friendly manner. Unlike you, that is. What I pointed out to you was that there are other examples of using DRM where there's no apparent reason to. (Of course, there is a reason but it's not apparent to the average user.)

By the way, care to reply to my previous question: can you tell me a reason not to permban you for spreading lies (again)?

Can you PROVE that I am lying? Have you personally disassembled all of h4x0r's trainers to see what they are or are not doing during this mysterious DRM authentication process? I would do it for you, but we both know that would be pointless as you would just accuse me of falsifying the information.

Yes I can

yes, try it please. the key is encrypted using rijndael and encoded in base64.

You're trying to shift the burden of proof into which trap I will not fall.

You'll need to explain it in a way that others also understand, can follow and check for themselves. If your guide is too technical then you won't be able to convince the public, including me. (That's not my fault: fact is that the vast majority of humankind is NOT an expert in decrypting, unpacking, reverse-engineering Windows assembly code.) If convincing the public doesn't matter to you then why are you complaining here at all, why did you ask help from us back then?! If you want to make your point, for god's sake, make it! Until then, you're just talking vague suspicions (i.e. bullshit) which we've had way enough of. Also make sure that the trainer is on h4x0r's site or GCW (exact download URL!), so that you cannot change the code or, for that matter, let anyone accuse you of it. (Not that I haven't told you all this about a dozen times...)

You really need to educate yourself about logic fallacies (too) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacy - because there's, at least, one in every post you make.

Is a validation process... ¿would you to use plain text?.

Why not? We do, because we are not sending ANY personal information during our authentication process.

BTW Joe, we spent DAYS compiling such info into a PDF document a couple of years ago showing how h4x0r ripped several of our trainers. We all know how that went. Not going to waste time going through that again. Believe me or not, doesn't really matter. I think the public is smart enough to figure out that online only DRM, super encrypted, which requires an account to be created at a third party website, all for a FREE PRODUCT, is more than a little phishy.

If the user has access to the data anyone can send false validation data. is unusual store validation data in plain text in any service.

It is easy to understand for these reasons:

The key is generated in the server, and downloaded in your profile in SC.

The file not change or increase in the user computer.

is the file is generated in the server ¿how to send other information? please explain.

Its good to know:

The regulation implementing the Organic Law on Data Protection indicates that passwords, while in active state, will be stored in an "unintelligible" format.

And I spent HOURS trying to explain to you that a document by itself is not a proof, unless others can use it to make their investigations. As you haven't provided us with download links to real CheatHappens and h4x0r trainers, which I asked you several times, there was no way to make our own investigation. Neither could anyone else, including people who can reverse-engineer trainers. (Of course, I wrote down this, too, in one of our announcements.)

Me neither. You either show proof or fuck off.

If it didn't really matter, you wouldn't be here complaining, would you?

I think the public is smart enough to recognize the false logic - and lack of actual proofs - in your posts. Not too difficult, though, as you're using quite a lot of them:
- argumentum ad hominem
- argumentum ad baculum
- argumentum ad ignorantiam
- argumentum ad verecundian
- argumentum ad ridiculum
- argumentum ad nauseam
- argumentum ex silentio
- onus probandi
- red herring
- no true Scotsman
- cherry picking
- straw man
- to quoque
(Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies, too.)

I got bored of you. Go away!

LOL. Posts like this are ruining your credibility. You just confirmed that your accusations are not having any ground. Not a wise move. Your temper is your enemy.

Ironically, you and h4x0r have more in common than you would think. Quick to anger, ban people just because you have a bad day, waging an infinite war against each other with a never-ending hatred. Facts that are true and well known about both of you.

Funny that you hate each other so much because you are similar in so many aspects.

well everyone can think what they want, but i'm very quiet that i have nothing to do with these people now and never.

regards

But you have opened this topic:
http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=92691

And they do the same about you on their forum.

You guys never give up. I wasn't even born yet when this war has started. :D

but i just leave doubt in the air, not directly accuse anyone, much less insult anyone .. also I have a right to complain because complaints have never started for me :)

People can't stand seeing their own bad habits and dark side in others - it's like looking into a mirror that, "unfortunately", isn't crooked.

There's a Hungarian science fiction short novel dealing with this: Weinbrenner Rudolf: A kitüntetés (The award). In the future, scientists and artists are protected by the "Gene Bank" that stores their DNA and memory, the latter saved every few weeks. If something happens to them and they die, a clone is created and his or her memory restored from backup so that society doesn't lose them. An artist, without goals and tired of life, jumps into a volcano and is later resurrected. He manages to persuade one of the technicians to create another clone of him but, this time, as female. (Sex change, for the next incarnation, is a standard option in the "last" will of such people.) They, the same personality in two bodies, start to live together but, instead of recognizing the good in each "other", they rather get mad about the "other"'s bad habits, down to the smallest goddamn details. Also, how surreal can it be to have sex with (a copy of) yourself?! After many quarrels, they conclude that they cannot live like this. Besides committing suicide, they also blow up the local Gene Bank so that they cannot be resurrected ever again. As a result, the council responsible for this "award" of immortality understands that not everyone is ready for it - it's rather a psychological burden for some - and decides to continue to offer the chance to great minds but not force it upon them anymore. Quite edifying...

Yes, they are perfect nemesis for each other.

That actually made me laugh :p

I am wondering if anyone is suffering from war exhaustion from this CH vs H4x0r war?