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Lord Jester
06-01-2001, 19:15
This was posted by Big Papa. And not Written by me. There was one
going around that IGOTASHIT666 reposted and it seems to be gone.
So credit goes to the Original posters.THIS IS FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS NOT READ MY POSTS...
I AM PUTTING THEM ALL TOGETHER IN THIS ONE POST.. THAT WAY IT'LL BE EASIER TO KEEP UP FOR EVERYONE..
!!!!!STEP BY STEP RULES FOR DC BACK UPS!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE IF YOU READ THIS TAKE THE TIME TO POST A REPLY, THAT WAY THIS MESSAGE WILL STAY UP LONGER FOR MORE PEOPLE TO SEE.

KEEP IN MIND THAT I DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO HELP YOU GUYS, I HAVE ALL THE DC GAMES RELEASED, SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TAKE A LITTLE OF YOUR TIME AND POST A REPLY, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

BPC


LETS GET STARTED....

DOWN LOADING..........

most of you asking questions are trying to download games, and are not having too much luck, these are the steps you should take to increase your chances of downloading a game.

1. you need to know how many rar files are in the game you want. (this is very important, if you are missing just one file or if one file is bad..the whole thing will be bad) goto www.isonews.com and look up the game it will tell you how many files there are to the game you want.
EX: Shenmue Passport Kalisto [xx/25]
^
^
this is the number you are looking for, so if you are downloading shenmue passport and you only have 20 files....guess what, it wont work...duh!
(most times however, when you see this number you can subtract 2 from it, because 2 of the files are not needed for the game"nfo", "sfv")

read part 2...................


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Date: 21-11-2000 on 09:09

Lord Jester
06-01-2001, 19:16
2. now you have all the files you need to check them and make sure that they are complete, when the games are release it has pretty much been a standard to release them in 20mb files, so make sure all of the file except the last one are 20mb
if you are checking in windows you will need to make sure you go under "view" and turn on "details", that way you can see the size of the files. you should see something like "filename.001 19,532...blah blah. make sure you have 19,532 for all the files except the last one.
if you are checking them in winrar then you will see "filename.001 20,000,000" once again check them all to make sure they are all 20mb except the last one.
(NOTE: this is just the standard, some times people will re rar the games to a diffrent size so don't be alarmed..if you have a game that says it is supposed to be 10 files and you have 14 files, but they are all at 15mb, then you will more than likely be ok)
now assuming you have all the files in one spot open up winrar and click on the first file( usually the extension is .rar or .01, hit the extract to button at the top, win rar will then asign a folder to the game so just hit ok. now they files will star being extracted to a folder with the same name as the files, winrar will usually tell you when something is wrong ..if you get a message say it needs a file to continue then that means you forgot to download a file and the extraction cant go on, or maybe you have the file and it's in a different folder or even the extension on it got changed. you can either leave winrar right where it is, go back and get the file, or find it on your comp.
once winrar is done you can go look inside the folder it made and you should see either a cue/bin file or a cdi file.
for cue/bin files you need cdrwin, open "record disk", "load cue sheet" find the cue in the folder the game is in and hit record.
if you have a cdi file then you need disk juggler 2.x
make sure you have and adaptek program installed and go get the aspi32 driver. once you have DJ open goto "file", "new" and choose "cd image to cd recorder". hit the source button, find the cdi file and load it. make sure your recorder is recognized by DJ, on the right put "write" in the action box" and put the recording speed down to 4x or below..(to be safe) hit the "advanced" tab and check these
mode: mode1
block: 2368 or 2332
offset:0
toc: cd-rom
now go back and burn it...you should turn off all other apps and anything that makes your hard drive work, you don't want to under run the buffer.
in 20 minutes or so you should have a working self boot game.
(NOTE: if you have a game you made from a cue/bin file then you will need to load the boot disk first, if you made the game from a cdi file DON'T load the boot disk, just put in in the dc and turn it on)

please read part 3..........


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Date: 21-11-2000 on 09:10

Lord Jester
06-01-2001, 19:16
!!!I ALREADY HAVE A WORKING GAME, BUT I WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER COPY!!!!
this is much easier to do if you have a game that requires the boot disk...then you can make a copy with almost any program out there, just make sure you are using 80 min cds for the ones that need it, some times you will need to make the smaller games fit onto a 80 min cd ( i will explain later )
i use cdrwin though open cdrwin and choose the 3rd box over on the top row "extract disk" make sure the game you want to copy is in the cd tray and you have enough space on your hard drive. save the game to a folder of your choice and hit start, cdrwin will make a cue/bin file with whatever name you gave it. once it is done you close the extract window and choose the 1st box on the top "record disk", hit the load cue sheet button find your cue, set your burn speed, and burn.
copying a self boot game i have only been able to do with 2 programs disk juggler 2.x and psxcopy6.0
disk juggler
first you need to make sure your burner supports multi session...one way to check is to open cdrwin goto "record disk" look at the bottom in "recording options" if you see "new session" available to you..then you are in luck if not.....you only have one hope....(later)
you will need to turn off the auto insert notification to your reader and burner under the system icon in the controll panel, device tab.

back to DJ open "new" and choose "copy cd from the same recorder", put the game you want to copy in the BURNER and close the tray you shouldn't have to make any other adjustments and hit start
disk juggler will then make a iso image of the game, when it is done, it'll kick out the cd. put a blank cd in the burner, close the tray, and let the burner get set. once the burner is set hit start and it should copy ok...if it doesn't , then make sure you have the aspi32 driver from adaptek.com

for those of you who did not have the "open new session" available...the only hope i know of is psxcopy, unfortunately it is hard to find and if anyone knows where i can get a new version of this program please let me know. psx copy to me is the "BEST" program i have on one of my burners..it will burn anything even 90% of self boot games already on cd. if you have it then open it, put your cd-rom in source and burner in destination put the game in and a blanck cd, then hit "copy"
it will scan the cd then goto a screen where it asks you if you want to save it to disk then copy it check this box and hit "copy"
psxcopy will then make a temp image and burn the game, it is one of the few programs that will write one session then continues on to the next...


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Date: 21-11-2000 on 09:12

Lord Jester
06-01-2001, 19:19
this is to help SOME of you guys who seem to have trouble when you burn an image file..
it seems a lot of you guys can burn a cdi image, however it doesn't work....
here are some things you can do to improve your burning percentage....a lot of you guys are claiming you've wasted over 20 cds..
um.... you could have damn near bought the game in the store or 2 from me...
the point is...lets use a little sense and not waste so many cds if it wont work after your third try....just stop.
now on with the show...
1. make sure you have the right amount of rar files, ( i have explained this process in my other step by step, if you have not read it, please do and post a reply at the bottom)
2. check to see if all the files are the right size.
A. this is very important because if one file is bad the whole thing is bad. sometimes when you download a file, it will be either too small(because the download got cut off), or too big (because, it resumed over)
B. the most important thing is....make sure you are using diskjuggler 2.x(a lot of you are trying to do this with 3.x, which is a no no...
if this happens then you need to find that file and re download it.
3. another very important thing...DONT USE CHEAP CDS!!!! i have spoke to some of you guys who say "it finished copying, but the game didn't load", i find out your using cheap cds and once you used a better brand the game worked(...hmmm)
A. don't use those cds that don't have a protective coating on the top, yeah yeah...they may look real nice all silver, but they suck shit. they don't reflect well and a lot of the time the reader goes right through them, plus if they get one little scratch on the top of that pretty silver coat..( that is smeared to death with your nasty finger prints)
the game or what ever you had on it wont work. you can usually tell if the dc can see something on the cd, but just can't do anything with it.
B. if you get the cd player screen when you put in the cd, then the dc sees something on the disk but cant process it. you can either change cd media or if you are not sure if it is self loading, try using the boot disk.
C. if you get the screen where the memory card is bouncing around, then the dc doesn't see anything at all...
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Date: 21-11-2000 on 09:14

Lord Jester
06-01-2001, 19:37
"THE GAME BURNS AND I'M USING GOOD MEDIA...NOW WHAT"??
OK now we get into something else....you have followed everything above and still no luck, now it's time to look at the image file itself..
you will need all the rar files to the game, open winrar and goto the directory with the game files. you are going to repair each one, because sometimes when you download files the strans of the filees get messed up, so we are going to try to get the right.
click on the first file of the game and hit the "repair" button at the top you will then be asked if you want to treat it as a rar or zip, choose rar, it will then do its thing and when done goto the next file..hit the second file and then "repair", pick as rar...then you will be ask something else
winrar saves repaired files as "_reconst.rar" so when you do file 2 it whants to call it the same thing, choose to rename the file and change it to "_reconst.002", and "_reconst.003" for the third one and so on...
once you are done, you have to move all the old files to a new directory, so make a folder inside the folder you are in and call it "damaged", move the old files in the "damaged" folder.
now, to make things easy goto one of the old files "right" click on it and choose "rename", i want you to highlight the name of the file WITHOUT the extension and hit "ctrl and c", this will copy the name.
you now have to go back and rename each file to it's original name, if you copied the name like i said then all you have to do is "right click" on the repaired rar hit "rename" hit ctrl and v , this will put the file name in, now all you have to do is put the right extension on..thats why i told you to keep the same extension number on the end of each repaired rar.
once you have renamed them all to their original names un rar the game again and try burning it at no more than 4x...with any luck it should work...
i hope...

!!!!! CDRWIN CUE SHEETS WONT LOAD!!!!!
many times when you download a game the cue sheet gets messed up so....
if you download a game cue/bin and try to load the cue sheet and the cue sheet wont load
look at the error and see what's wrong
if it says "can't open bin"
then open your "note pad"...(start, programs,accessories, ..notepad)
goto file hit "open" goto the directory where the cue and bin are..( make sure you set it to show "all files"
click on the cue sheet and open it..

you should see something like this:
FILE "D:\GAME IMAGES\DINO2.BIN" BINARY
TRACK 01 MODE2/2352
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
PREGAP 00:02:00
INDEX 01 44:45:18
make sure the file path and names are correct, the most common one i see is this:..(if you notice the extension got changed to ".bin.bin")


FILE "D:\GAME IMAGES\DINO2.BIN.BIN" BINARY
TRACK 01 MODE2/2352
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
PREGAP 00:02:00
INDEX 01 44:45:18
all you have to do is erase the .BIN on the end and save it....
now try loading that cue sheet again...and i bet it will work....

DONE FOR YOU BY
BIG PAPA CERVANTES
THEGAMEGOD7


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Date: 21-11-2000 on 09:15

Lord Jester
06-01-2001, 19:38
!!!THIS IS FOR THE BOOT DISK ONLY!!!!!!!!!
AS you all know i have mentioned "psx copy" many times i use version 6.0, but if you go here you can get version 6.2
http://www.cdrsoft.net/index2.html

i will upload the image file of the boot disk for those of you that need it to one of my idrive accounts..i'll post the account later tommorow...

now, this program will not burn cdi files, it is only good for making copies of backup already on cd and self boot games that were made with the kalisto self boot method...i will try to put together a list of those games..if i get the time...


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Date: 21-11-2000 on 09:18

Lord Jester
06-01-2001, 19:39
it seem most of you are having the same problems over and over, some of you i have been able to help, while others have not been so lucky.
i'm going to go over the basic things you should do to get disk juggler to work, and i would appreciate anyone else's help that has usefull info. when you are done reading this i beg you to please post a reply at the bottom...say anything, but that way this message will stay on the boards for eveyone to read when they enter.
onto the solutions.
FIRST: IF YOU ARE TRYING TO BURN A CDI DC IMAGE WITH SOMETHING OTHER THAN DISK JUGGLER 2.X.....YOU'LL HAVE A NICE COASTER TO SET YOUR DRINKS ON....SO MAKE SURE IT IS DJ 2.X
SECOND: UPDATE THE ASPI DRIVER AT WWW.ADAPTEK.COM OR USE THE GENERIC DJ DRIVER FOUND AT WWW.DCCOPYWORLD.COM

THIRD: MAKE SURE YOUR BURNER SUPPORTS MULTI SESSION WRITING..ONE WAY TO CHECK IS BY TURNING ON CDRWIN, GOTO "RECORD DISK" LOOK AT THE BOTTOM..IF YOU SEE THE "OPEN NEW SESSION" GREYED OUT UNDER "RECORDING OPTIONS"...WELL.....YOU ARE OUT OF LUCK.(YOU CAN BURN GAMES THAT ARE NOT SELF BOOT THOUGH).

FOURTH:ONCE YOU HAVE ALL THAT DONE OPEN DJ...
BURNING A UNRARED IMAGE:
1 GOTO "FILE", "NEW"" AND CHOOSE "CD IMAGE TO CD RECORDER"
2 HIT THE "SOURCE" BUTTON, FIND YOUR CDI/ISO IMAGE AND HIT "OK"
3 MAKE SURE YOUR BURNER IS IN DESTINATION
4 MOVE THE RECORDING SPEED DOWN TO 4X OR SLOWER...(JUST TO BE SAFE), AND PUT "WRITE" IN THE "ACTION" BOX..OR "TEST AND IF OK WRITE"
5 HIT THE "ADVANCED" TAB...THIS MAY NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO SOME , BUT I HAVE LESS PROBLEMS WHEN I CHOOSE THESE SETTINGS
MODE: MODE1
BLOCK: 2336 OR 2368 (MAY VARY ON BURNERS)
OFFSET:0
TOC: CD-ROM
DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING CHECKED IN THE "MISC"
6 MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT RUNNING OTHER APPS, YOU WANT YOUR HARD DRIVE TO BE ABLE TO SPIT THE INFO THE THE BURNER WITH OUT ANY PROBLEMS.
7 HIT START AND PRAY......

MAKING A BACK-UP OF A DC GAME ON DISK

FIRST FOLLOW ALL THE STEPS ABOVE UNTIL YOU GET TO THE "FILE", "NEW", NOW HIT "CD COPY FROM SAME RECODER"
ALSO IN ORDER FOR THIS TO WORK YOU MUST TURN OFF THE "CD AUTO INSERT" ON YOUR COMP. TO CHECK THIS GOTO "START", "SETTINGS", "CONTROL PANEL", "SYSTEM"..HIT THE "DEVICE MANAGER" TAB..GOTO "CD ROM" HIT THE "SETTINGS" TAB MAKE SURE THERE IS NOT A CHECK IN THE "AUTO INSERT NOTIFICATION" BOX. DO THIS FOR YOUR READER AND BURNER. (RESTART YOUR COMP)

OK ONCE YOU'RE BACK PUT THE GAME YOU WANT TO COPY IN YOUR BURNER PUT THE RECORDING SPEED DOWN TO 4X AND "WRITE" IN THE "ACTION" SLOT HIT START.
DJ WILL START MAKING A TEMP IMAGE OF THE GAME. WHEN IT IS DONE IT WILL KICK OUT THE GAME. PUT A BLANK 80MIN CD IN THE BURNER, CLOSE THE TRAY, LET THE BURNER GET SET...THIS IS IMPORTANY, BECAUSE 80% OF THE TIME IF YOU HIT "OK" RIGHT AFTER YOU CLOSE THE CD TRAY IT WILL FAIL...WHY?..I DON'T KNOW, SO JUST WAIT THE 6 SECONDS OR SO THEN HIT "OK"... IN 20 MINUTES YOU SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER COPY OF THE GAME.

A COMMON ERROR MESSAGE IS "BUFFER UNDER RUN" THAT MEANS YOUR HARD DRIVE OR CDROM( IF GOING CD TO CD) IS NOT GETTING INFO TO THE BURNER FAST ENOUGH, SO THE BURNER STOPS FUNCTIONING.....THE MOST COMMON WAY TO HANDLE THIS IS SLOW DOWN YOUR WRITING SPEED, SO THE BURNER ISN'T WRITING THE INFO FASTER THAN IT'S GETTING IT, ALSO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR COMP THAT REQUIRES YOUR HARD DRIVE TO WORK (SO CLOSE ALL APPS )

THE SCARIEST PART IS RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST SESSION, IF YOU GET PAST THIS PART TO THE 10% MARK..IT SHOULD BE SMOOTH FROM THERE..UNLESS YOU MESS WITH YOU COMP, HAVE A POWER OUTTAGE, OR YOU KID COMES OVER AND PUSHES THE BUTTONS ON YOUR COMP(I HAVE THAT PROBLEM)
HOPE THIS HELPS EVERYON....
GOOD LUCK

DO ME A FAVOR IF YOU FOUND ANY OF THIS HELPFULL, PLEASE POST A REPLY ..

THANKS...


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Date: 21-11-2000 on 09:24

Lord Jester
06-01-2001, 22:40
If you still have questions please read it again. :)
Hope this helps alittle for all those still having
problems.

chi'lyn
06-01-2001, 23:25
thanks.

conquest01
07-01-2001, 00:20
ic things you should do to get disk juggler to work, and i would appreciate anyone else's help that has usefull info. when you are done reading this i beg you to please post a reply at the bottom...say anything, but that way this message will stay on the boards for eveyone to read when they enter.
onto the solutions.
FIRST: IF YOU ARE TRYING TO BURN A CDI DC IMAGE WITH SOMETHING OTHER THAN DISK JUGGLER 2.X.....YOU'LL HAVE A NICE COASTER TO SET YOUR DRINKS ON....SO MAKE SURE IT IS DJ 2.X
SECOND: UPDATE THE ASPI DRIVER AT WWW.ADAPTEK.COM OR USE THE GENERIC DJ DRIVER FOUND AT WWW.DCCOPYWORLD.COM

THIRD: MAKE SURE YOUR BURNER SUPPORTS MULTI SESSION WRITING..ONE WAY TO CHECK IS BY TURNING ON CDRWIN, GOTO "RECORD DISK" LOOK AT THE BOTTOM..IF YOU SEE THE "OPEN NEW SESSION" GREYED OUT UNDER "RECORDING OPTIONS"...WELL.....YOU ARE OUT OF LUCK.(YOU CAN BURN GAMES THAT ARE NOT SELF BOOT THOUGH).

FOURTH:ONCE YOU HAVE ALL THAT DONE OPEN DJ...
BURNING A UNRARED IMAGE:
1 GOTO "FILE", "NEW"" AND CHOOSE "CD IMAGE TO CD RECORDER"
2 HIT THE "SOURCE" BUTTON, FIND YOUR CDI/ISO IMAGE AND HIT "OK"
3 MAKE SURE YOUR BURNER IS IN DESTINATION
4 MOVE THE RECORDING SPEED DOWN TO 4X OR SLOWER...(JUST TO BE SAFE), AND PUT "WRITE" IN THE "ACTION" BOX..OR "TEST AND IF OK WRITE"
5 HIT THE "ADVANCED" TAB...THIS MAY NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO SOME , BUT I HAVE LESS PROBLEMS WHEN I CHOOSE THESE SETTINGS
MODE: MODE1
BLOCK: 2336 OR 2368 (MAY VARY ON BURNERS)
OFFSET:0
TOC: CD-ROM
DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING CHECKED IN THE "MISC"
6 MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT RUNNING OTHER APPS, YOU WANT YOUR HARD DRIVE TO BE ABLE TO SPIT THE INFO THE THE BURNER WITH OUT ANY PROBLEMS.
7 HIT START AND PRAY......

MAKING A BACK-UP OF A DC GAME ON DISK

FIRST FOLLOW ALL THE STEPS ABOVE UNTIL YOU GET TO THE "FILE", "NEW", NOW HIT "CD COPY FROM SAME RECODER"
ALSO IN ORDER FOR THIS TO WORK YOU MUST TURN OFF THE "CD AUTO INSERT" ON YOUR COMP. TO CHECK THIS GOTO "START", "SETTINGS", "CONTROL PANEL", "SYSTEM"..HIT THE "DEVICE MANAGER" TAB..GOTO "CD ROM" HIT THE "SETTINGS" TAB MAKE SURE THERE IS NOT A CHECK IN THE "AUTO INSERT NOTIFICATION" BOX. DO THIS FOR YOUR READER AND BURNER. (RESTART YOUR COMP)

OK ONCE YOU'RE BACK PUT THE GAME YOU WANT TO COPY IN YOUR BURNER PUT THE RECORDING SPEED DOWN TO 4X AND "WRITE" IN THE "ACTION" SLOT HIT START.
DJ WILL START MAKING A TEMP IMAGE OF THE GAME. WHEN IT IS DONE IT WILL KICK OUT THE GAME. PUT A BLANK 80MIN CD IN THE BURNER, CLOSE THE TRAY, LET THE BURNER GET SET...THIS IS IMPORTANY, BECAUSE 80% OF THE TIME IF YOU HIT "OK" RIGHT AFTER YOU CLOSE THE CD TRAY IT WILL FAIL...WHY?..I DON'T KNOW, SO JUST WAIT THE 6 SECONDS OR SO THEN HIT "OK"... IN 20 MINUTES YOU SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER COPY OF THE GAME.

A COMMON ERROR MESSAGE IS "BUFFER UNDER RUN" THAT MEANS YOUR HARD DRIVE OR CDROM( IF GOING CD TO CD) IS NOT GETTING INFO TO THE BURNER FAST ENOUGH, SO THE BURNER STOPS FUNCTIONING.....THE MOST COMMON WAY TO HANDLE THIS IS SLOW DOWN YOUR WRITING SPEED, SO THE BURNER ISN'T WRITING THE INFO FASTER THAN IT'S GETTING IT, ALSO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR COMP THAT REQUIRES YOUR HARD DRIVE TO WORK (SO CLOSE ALL APPS )

THE SCARIEST PART IS RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST SESSION, IF YOU GET PAST THIS PART TO THE 10% MARK..IT SHOULD BE SMOOTH FROM THERE..UNLESS YOU MESS WITH YOU COMP, HAVE A POWER OUTTAGE, OR YOU KID COMES OVER AND PUSHES THE BUTTONS ON YOUR COMP(I HAVE THAT PROBLEM)
HOPE THIS HELPS EVERYON....
GOOD LUCK

DO ME A FAVOR IF YOU FOUND ANY OF THIS HELPFULL, PLEASE POST A REPLY ..

THANKS...


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Date: 21-11-2000 on 09:24[/quote]
Big Papa i have done all that you have formentioned in these posts but my question might sound stupid?? which it probably is. All my back up image files are about 702 mb, and the disk are only 700mb, i am using a sony 140xe, do i need an another cd writer capable of overburning or is there a program or such i can buy thanks please inform

Lord Jester
08-01-2001, 02:37
:)

Mojo
08-01-2001, 18:24
lord jess, i can burn boots & selfboots with dj3.0,i tried dj2.0 it cache 28% and spat the cdr out.My problem is that i dont get that inner burn ring on dj3.0.When i play my copied game on the dc machine it spins extremely fast for 1-2 secs and returns to its normal speed.It plays perfect on the dc machine,its only that slight problem above i mentioned annoys me.Is this why u dont recommend dj3.0.Im using the cheap discs u mentioned on ur post!

Lord Jester
09-01-2001, 03:48
ok. First off the above post was not written by me. It was written by Big Papa a long time ago.
Its very helpfull so I try and keep it listed on the first page in order to help people out. Anyway,
I use DJ 3.X for all my burns. That speed up is normal. How ever if you would like you can always
dummy the cdi before burning. That may help.

lilc
11-01-2001, 23:50
thanks!!!

Mojo
12-01-2001, 17:05
why mode 1,i choose mode 2 instead,it makes no difference!

Lord Jester
12-01-2001, 20:14
Some burners wont burn on mode 2. It all depends on your
bruner. Mine it doesnt matter. Others it does.

Kantana
13-01-2001, 09:41
Hmm I have suceeded using DJ 3.00.755 for my selfboots from non self boot images using the extract tracks feature to build a CDI image that can be written to in DAO mode. This way I can use raw to write and so overburn. I tried to make Grandia 2 disk 1 selfboot but when trying to burn the disk it stops at 99% with an invalid command descriptor. The whole image is 81:55 so I use 90 min CDRs. I have successfully overburnt using mode 1 for normal PC data so I guess my Plextor 1210A can overburn and that was on a 90min CDR with a single mode 1 data track of 89:15. My question is does my CD writer or is DJ limited to CDXA mode 2 below 81mins? Any help on this would be much appreciated as I can't work it out. I have succeeded burning Soulcalibur selfboot but that only came to 80:30 and could be overburnt to a 80min CDR with no errors being produced by DJ..

JunioR
13-01-2001, 17:17
This is a really good post it has a lot of really good information. There are just some modifications that should be made to the settings if you are burning Dreamcast games using a Mistumi burner in Disc Juggler. I have a Mitsumi 4802 TE and I thought I would help people out who have been having problems burning dreamcast games with this type of burner. These settings are from Disc Juggler 3.x but should be universal for 2.x.

Under defaults have only the things checked that are stated here.
Read ISRC/UPC
Raw Read/Write
Ignore Read Errors
Burn-Proof
Write
Cache CD
CDDB
Overburn CD

I know in the Big Poppa help post it tells you not to have anything check in the Misc box in the advanced settings tab when burning a cd. But with the Mitsumi leave whatever is in there checked to have the best success rate you possible can.

I hopes this helps you people out and cuts back on the coasters

Lord Jester
13-01-2001, 19:39
Thats some very good information.

Hollywood X
13-01-2001, 20:09
I got Nero Burning Rom, can someone tell me how to burn using Nero ??? I already did all the extracting and all that I just need to burn it on a cd.

Mojo
14-01-2001, 06:35
LORD JESS,THAT SPEED UP IS NOT NORMAL.(YOUR COPYS ARE LIKE MINE NOT PERFECT BUT THEY WILL SUFFICE)
WILL ADAPTEC EASY CD CREATOR 4 DELUXE BURN SBOOT GAMES?

superted84
14-01-2001, 07:00
i like to say a big thanx to all the gods of dc copy like igotshit666, big papa and lord jesster yesterday i manged to copy mt first dc selfbooter silent scope and all the settings above work so for all u that say they don't thats bullshit. i have one question for the gods what is the fastest speed you cans afly read at and also burn at i have a creative 36mx cd rom and a ricoh mp7083a 8x8x32x

spiff
14-01-2001, 12:05
Hi I'm kind of a newbie on burning DC isos.
I haven't figure out what when I should use "mode1" or "mode2" and what block size to use (talking about .cdi, DiscJuggler format I think). I can choose between 3 different sizes. Some iso-pack doensn't include a .nfo or the .nfo doesn't mention what mode, block-size etc to use...

I can see from this thread that TOC: CD-ROM, Offset: 0 and uncheck all the Misc option, but how do I know what options I'm gonna use? Any tips?

Sieferdeath
14-01-2001, 23:23
fdgdgfstqgFEWFEAEW

Sieferdeath
14-01-2001, 23:23
fdgdgfstqgFEWFEAEW

Lord Jester
15-01-2001, 06:16
^

Lord Jester
16-01-2001, 05:17
;D just thought Id say somthing..... Well now that, thats done...

Sieferdeath
23-01-2001, 14:13
back to top!!!!!!!!!

GADGET_UK
23-01-2001, 16:45
why dont my copy of vanishing point [american] stop at accessing data on my english dc

GADGET_UK
24-01-2001, 15:11
can someone help with the above

superted84
24-01-2001, 15:14
read all of this and u will be able to copy d,c, games self and non booting

ZanySmash
25-01-2001, 06:52
There's a lack of info in this reliable post.

If your burner does not support RAW Read/Write Mode then you won't be able to copy about 30% of already burned DC games.

You'll know it if you encounter a 'CDB Error' near the end of the reading process.

spiff
25-01-2001, 09:15
If my [START] button in DiscJuggler is disabled, does this mean that I can't burn the selfbooting ISO's or do I need to do anything else?

Can I do something to go around this problem? Like convert the .CDI fileto a Nero Burning Rom file and then burn it?

Mojo
25-01-2001, 13:54
Hey i solve the burning ring problem,now all my sboots copies run smoothly on the console.My copies cannot be copied again on dj and others,it just register as a audio cd instead.
Thanks to everyone who helped me in the past!

Morgoth Of Eternal Darkness
25-01-2001, 16:52
Ok, I have a Px-4832 and I want to copy a game from a cd.. I've tried CloneCd (the burning prog I use mostly) But that didn't work... Now I downloaded Dj3.x and that didn't work wither... I know it says that you should use dj2.x but in a later reply you said that you were using dj3.x... I'm a little confused about that... have anyone made a succesfully copy of a game with this recorder? Oh, Btw.. It copys the imagefile with np but when I start it in my dc it starts "hack-reading" I've burned a succesfully utopia boot disk which works and I have good quality dc-r (kodak gold) Anyone knows whats wrong?? (I'm Downloading dj2.x right now.. hope it works...)
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Morgoth Of Eternal Darkness
25-01-2001, 17:07
hrm, one more thing... should I read the game from my recorder? Are the settings important when you are reading the disc you are going to copy? I have to try what you said... I didn't really follow the reading part but when I get dj I think I can handle it... but when downloading in 1.1kb/sec and the clock is 12p.m. and I'm going up 6.20a.m. tomorrow I'm getting more and more angry at my stupid 56k modem and I can assure you that I will have sweet dreams about broadband tonight!! :)
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I'm Morgoth The King Of Darkness!

Morgoth Of Eternal Darkness
26-01-2001, 12:37
To the top again baby! :)

Morgoth Of Eternal Darkness
26-01-2001, 14:50
Aaaahhhh!!! I've tried all the things above! NO LUCK!! I have a plextor 8432 and I use Kodak Gold (best quality cd-r) I've made a successfully copy of a downloaded image file of the utopia boot disc.. I've tried to copy the Pal version of chuchu rocket in Dj3.x, dj2.x, cloneCD and Cdrwin but all of them act the same in my dc! It starts to spin really fast then it hacks and slows down... repeats that 3-4 times and then it flips out totally... if I go without the boot disc it does the same thing but then the jumping memorycard appears... someone PLEASE help me!!!
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chao
27-01-2001, 12:20
Lord Jester (08-01-2001 09:37):
:)

Thanks! I think I can do it.

superted84
02-02-2001, 15:43
back to the top for all the newbies

kith
06-02-2001, 04:52
Thanks for all the info, but I still seem to have the same problem. I have got a pxw1210a and discjuggler V3, the problem is that it creates the iso and when it comes to burn it goes all right for a while then it resets my computer. Now this sometimes happens before it even starts with the image. Any help given here would be greatly appreciated.

FREDDHELL
07-02-2001, 10:32
Just want to say thanks and get this TOPIC to the front page again.

cofi
08-02-2001, 05:43
Just to help all the new guys like me!!

j0manna2000
08-02-2001, 20:13
just typin'

luke
09-02-2001, 11:56
Back to the Top!!!!

This is the Holy Grail of all posts

superted84
11-02-2001, 07:06
once you have read this post please reply to it and say something to send it back to the top

superted84
12-02-2001, 17:11
BACK TO THE TOP FOR THE DC BIBLE WHEREIT BELONGS

Winger131
18-02-2001, 19:52
I hope all this works out for me. Well, back to da top you go *boosts topic to the top from which point can be seen all things great and small*

dagamecollector
18-02-2001, 23:03
yeah, very helpful post ... keep it alive

truly_psychopathic
19-02-2001, 05:27
hmmm.... post a message................heres 1.

mingus
19-02-2001, 20:26
:O====@ {puke}

superted84
24-02-2001, 14:07
newbies read page one of this post that is where all the advice is

Mulder
25-02-2001, 06:16
GADGET_UK (23-01-2001 23:45):
why dont my copy of vanishing point [american] stop at accessing data on my english dc

This happened to me to, for some reason your internet settings have to be deleted, so insert dreamkey, go to modem, and delete all settings, the game will then get past that accessing data screen..........weird ain't it...

fidiv
26-02-2001, 00:05
are there problems burning the cdi files using DJ with NERO burning programs? if so... please post a solution if one exists...
(also... one more question, if i am able to download a single cdi file for the game, is that enough? so... i would not have to involve myself with the .rar files?) thanks in advance

superted84
28-02-2001, 15:52
cool

theonliduke
01-03-2001, 03:51
keep on the good work

dcdrica
01-03-2001, 13:39
This works People, Read it 10 times if you have to!!!! Print it out and read it some more!!!! Everything in here works to a T!

Poborsky8
09-03-2001, 23:26
This message is the greates thing somebody could have done for other people that are just starting to burn dc games. People like my self this has been the best help message that i have ever raid so far about burning dc games.
the world of burning dc games would be a better place if there was more people like YOU BIG PAPA'S
I LOVE THIS MAN

ckxd69
10-03-2001, 07:14
block: (2368 or 2332) Which block should i use? Does it matter? I know this maybe a dumb ? but i need to know. Thanks

Rivet
15-03-2001, 23:35
Ok been reading post and this has to be a good idea for newbies

I'm still one but i wanna share my experience. I hope this help others. please Correct where you see fit

I have been doing my homework on this Dc Scene. and have tried hotlinehq,(long wait) Some ftp, Downloaded From hack-sites
Finally i got some files for a game Virtual Tennis

So i'm on my way to putting it into my dreamcast and play it.
Don't need a utopia disc Since its Cdi (Self-bootable)

So files were as follows

nbc-vt.001
nbc-vt.002
nbc-vt.003
nbc-vt.004
nbc-vt.005
nbc-vt.006
nbc-vt.007
nbc-vt.008
nbc-vt.009
nbc-vt.010
nbc-vt.011
nbc-vt.012

So i spoke with a friend and read boards all over.
Next i downloaded Winrar

Haven't got result from game yet beacuse its downloading as i write. i hope to update with results

**what i am gonna do next is wait to i get all files in computer then use winrar**

that should give me a Cdi file
Which i then open Disc Juggler
and i click Cd image to Cd Recorder
then click on Advance and set as follows
Mode 1
Block 2336
offset 0
Cd-Rom
Misc section (all sqaure aren't checked)
As for the Souce and destination part i click on source
and look for the path to cdi file
my is as follows
MyDocument/tennis folder/Vt.cdi
Then press start and Burn
Hope it Works well i'm off to try it.

ONCE AGAIN I'M NOT A EXPERIENCE BURNER WITH DREAMCAST GAMES SO ANYONE WHO SEE A MISTAKE PLEASE POINT IT OUT SO I LEARN AND I DON'T MISLEAD ANYONE ELSE

THANKS

SLIMSHADY
16-03-2001, 17:30
HELP PADUS DISK JUG ERROR ON VERSION`S 2&3

CDB: be000005789f0000065800000, Status:040002,Sence:000000) INVALID SCSI/ATAPI return sense
IVE TRYED BACKING UP URBAN CHAOS AND SUPER EUROPE SOCCER 2OOO
i have a ultra plex 40 max
plex writer 12/10/32s
both scsi

jefmcc
19-03-2001, 17:23
thanks!