View Full Version : U.S. P2P on Lockdown
Quall999
20-04-2005, 18:57
The News (http://news.com.com/Prison+terms+on+tap+for+prerelease+pirates/2100-1028_3-5677232.html?tag=st.prev)
Basically, you can be charged for hosting any kind of copyrighted p2p media on the net. No loopholes, no way around it. The fines are not light either. The bill is expected to pass.
Neipas02
20-04-2005, 19:39
Sweet
acal3000
21-04-2005, 03:36
That not going to stop piracy
So you say now until your in the slammer for 3 yrs
"Oh why did I share that movie"
"Dont worry babe, ill see you in the shower to cheer you up" - Big Fat Inmate
hehehe
I think that thought alone would scare people :P
Quall999
21-04-2005, 09:26
It may not stop piracy, especially since the US is not the only people who file share. However, it should scare a lot of people from doing it.
Neipas02
21-04-2005, 09:59
Those first few people are gonna get the book thrown at them in a big way.. They're going to make examples of them for sure..
Should be soon enough.
i agree tottally with this as long as they dont go after a 12 year old girl for download a track of her fav band like the RAA (is that how there called?) are doing, i think thats just tottally wrong.
Quall999
21-04-2005, 12:07
Bah, I can't believe they did that. They wanted to make an example :(
an example, fine, BUT OF A KID! jeeze... thats just wrong.
Neipas02
21-04-2005, 14:32
Yea.. Actually it was more an example of her parents.. I think it was an attempt to make parents monitor what their children are doing online.. I'm sure they paid out the yang for that.
Does anyone know if it was an actual felony charge?.. If thats the case that poor little girl is screwed the rest of her life.. Having to try to get jobs and always noting her felony conviction on the application.. Reguardless of the crime most employers just trash the app.
Oh and Luc. It's RIAA. (recording industry artists of amercia) I believe.. I don't really care..
So from reading the article it looks like they're more concerned about the piracy of pre-released movies.. Which is getting more and more common these days.. Also I wonder if it is also having focus on movies that haven't been released on DVD yet..
They'd better not lock anyone up for having a copy of freaking Ernest Goes To Camp or something like that..
I can understand them making a example of the guy selling downloaded, bootleged cd's at a flea market or something but busting some kid like Luciel mentioned is just sad. In my eyes it makes the RIAA or whatever the hell they call themselfs look bad.
By sueing kids they achieve exaclty what they want as sueing someone who is making money on selling music is not that interesting and does not affect the common people
The RIAA & MPAA are both legal entities and are allowed to do these things by law (DMCA/FECA)... and if they continue sueing people, in the end it will make people more aware that they should not "upload/share" files and for better p2p networks to be developed, with better privacy protection (ip forgery/hiding)
The bad thing is that their tactics are now "copied" by other countries (UK, SE, DE, NL) now, making their action even more "legit". So it would be good if the RIAA/MPAA are stopped somehow, but that would mean cancelation of the DMCA/EUCD and this will never happen which the current governments...
The US is more and more becoming a Big Brother society where everybody is being monitored and sued when they find someting on you!
For the girl subject.
She was caught sharing 100k+ mp3's. Or was it 200k+.
I cant remember now, at the time they didnt know if she was a she or a child or whatever.
End of the day she was sharing music illegally and her parents who became her legal representitives got fined heavily.
$250k I think it was.
Quall999
22-04-2005, 06:27
Yah, it was really high. Didn't the Artist go after her? I can't remember. They wanted to show that anyone who does it will get in trouble.
WordBringer
24-04-2005, 01:50
looks like people going to have to start useing proxys when shareing and downloading in the US or use a fake id when setting up a high speed internet which unlike 56k u can use any one info u want but 56k lol who would want to share and d/l with that :eek:
how about non dinamic ip broadband?
Quall999
24-04-2005, 07:15
http://www.fileforums.com/images/smilies/wink.gif or you don't share illegal software?
looks like people going to have to start useing proxys when shareing and downloading in the US or use a fake id when setting up a high speed internet which unlike 56k u can use any one info u want but 56k lol who would want to share and d/l with that :eek:
This is what Im talking about with broadband kiddies. Not saying you are. But that is good for an example.
Broadband Kiddies prefer to download at full speed, they have the connection, but will refuse a 56k connection. As if its diseased or something.
Many people in the US and UK and pretty much everywhere else cant help being on 56k cause that is all thats available to them.
WordBringer
26-04-2005, 00:10
heh i have both bb and 56k ;) the 56k is for ebay use only i get 56k free unlimted 30 day tirals and i use to use 56k till about a year ago and belive me it sucks for d/l i never d/l any thing with my crapy 3.0 kbs d/l speed so i had to move to a place that had bb just to get it and now i love it i d/l at 500 kbs :D but the thing is now i have nothing to d/l :( i dont do moives much cause the quality is just so bad i wait till there on video then watch them.
and u can always get dish internet it will work ever were even were 56k dosent and it has d/l speeds of about 30kbs which is better then 56k at 5 kbs but not as good as cable though.
Broadband Kiddies prefer to download at full speed, they have the connection, but will refuse a 56k connection. As if its diseased or something.
Its rather amusing. I'm a 56k user myself and I wouldn't have thought that a 56k user downloading from a broadband connection would seriously hinder their [broadband user's] internet connection.
But thats kids for ya.
I was meaning the other way around, them trying to get from a 56k user.
Say it was someone on a P2P progy, for arguments sake say Morpheus.
They look for one hard to song to get, and only one person has it, tis on a 56k guy.
They wont get it, cause its 56k and they dont want to wait long times to get it.
So they wait even longer till someone quick has it lol
The time they waited for that, they could have received it from the 56k guy.
People noticed this, and then you get the cheats, who put themselves on as a 56k but have a 8mb line or something, so he wont have to upload to people so his download speed is maxed rather than limited because of something uploading.
Yep the wonderful world of Broadband Kiddies, steal what you can, and rape the other broadband kiddies lol
haha yeah i agree with ya
its amazing the kids dont realise that with broadband, they do have the ability to just sit and wait for the file to download.
it sucks, kids who have better net than me, and just don't use it to its full potential.
SimpleSnake
10-07-2005, 22:31
Going after kids for a scare tactic against other users is barbaric and immoral. This is the cold war of the internet. One side moves after the other, heavier laws more p2p networks. It's an arms race. Personally I like the idea of compitition, I just wish the government could pave the roads, feed the homeless, fix social security and our health care system before they raid my house because I didn't want to buy the whole White Stripes cd when 95% of it sucked. Hollywood can eat me. Most movies now suck anyhow, I got tired of walking out of them and demanding my money back years ago. Besides, if the movie was good enough they most likely made their money back by the second week. The rich will always protect their greatest interest, getting more money. Example, those Live 8 artist, think they did that concert to save Africa? Is Africa gonna be saved by rock shows? Lets get Bono to save the Middle East then. They just wanted the attention. People in power generally abuse that power to force their opinion on others. And who better to pick on than a 12 year old girl.
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